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Sunday, April 27, 2008

Is There Anything New Under The Sun in Recruiting?

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Kristen Fife (20)

Most corporate recruiters (and some agencies, I'm sure) get bombarded with "new", "innovative", "money-saving" recruiting products and services. I've looked at a few lately, and seen some innovations so I'm going to examine a few of them.

I recently tried BountyJobs.
https://www.bountyjobs.com/

Basically, it is an online recruiting marketplace connecting corporate recruiters with agencies/independent recruiters. The nice thing about it is that it allows corporate recruiters to interact with agencies to fill positions without having to put a contract in place, and to set the direct placement % you are willing to pay. It works on all positions from low to executive. I gave it a shot on a couple of positions we had open and was very pleased with the results. Some of the things I liked about it:

-Serves all of North America (Canada as well as US)
-You pay BountyJobs, they hold fees in escrow for you with a money-back guarantee
-Recruiters submit "bounties" on jobs you have listed. Easy interface to accept or deny the bounty
-Profiles that you can decline or accept
-Communication can take place completely online

This is most decidedly an advantage for corporate recruiters. So I'd say, yes, giving an "auction" business model to recruiting is positive, and innovative step forward.


NotchUp
http://notchup.com/?q=i


OK, this has got to be the most perplexing stab at a "new" recruiting business model I've ever heard of. Companies *pay* candidates to interview? Are you serious? Their FAQ section gives some interesting statistics, but I wonder where they truly *got* them? 

Here's an interesting read about this bizarre offering.

http://www.cheezhead.com/xtra/2008/01/29/more-thoughts-on-notch-up/

My thoughts? Yeah, not so much for me. It really makes no sense as a business model to *me*.

theLadders
http://theladders.com

OK, when the Ladders first came out a few years ago, it was actually an interesting business model. Basically the premise was that job seekers pay for job postings from employers, and employers could post their $100K plus jobs for free. I actually got some great candidates from the Ladders.

And then...

At the end of 2007 the Ladders changed their business model (probably due to lack of funding). I had signed up for a free trial when I commenced my new position, and at the end of it the sales rep gave me a really *hard* sales pitch. The company had started charging companies for job postings, and it was a hefty amount. At this time, it was for unlimited postings for a year. Now, here's the problem with this.
 
1) The sales pitch was "sign up in the next 48 hours and we'll give you this hefty discount but only if you sign up during this limited time offer period." Not so enticing.

2) Not all of the jobs I have are over $100K.

3) Their subscription fee has no provisions for single postings.

4) Not built into my recruiting budget for the year.

And to me, the really duplicitous part of the business? They are still charging applicants those fees to have these jobs sent to them. Yeah. It's now just one more job board, the only differentiator is that you know the salaries will start at $100K. I queried my local recruiting community when I got the hard line sales pitch and found that they'd done the same thing and that the subscription amounts and "trial period" varied *vastly* from company to company.

Final analysis: leaves a really nasty taste in my mouth.

Honorable Mention for creativity:

DevSelect Recruiting

This is a local recruiting agency, and I'm impresssed with something they have done which takes advantage of the local recruiting economy. Here in the Seattle area, one of the biggest employers is Microsoft. They employ a *lot* of contractors (in fact, yours truly has made a career out of it, you might say.)

Now, due to a nasty co-employment lawsuit MS found themselves in a few years ago, they have some very strict guidelines for contractors. As a contractor through a temp agency, I have 12 months that I can work at MS. I could do one year in one group, or several smaller contracts within that year. But at the end of that twelve months, I am required to take my "100 Day Break". This is exactly what it sounds like. I cannot work in any capacity at MS for that 100 days (unless I'm hired full time; no limitations on that.) During that 100 day break I have been known to: travel, get another job, go on unemployment, take classes, etc. In fact, it was after my last contract ended that I started at my most recent employer.

There is a whole local lexicon about the whole MS Contracting lifestyle. While on campus during your contract, your email alias starts with "a-". So, my email alias has in the past been "a-kfife @ microsoft.com". It's also been a couple of variations on that.

So, at any given time there are a pretty significant number of contractors on their 100-day break. DevSelect has come up with a program to work with them. I asked Bob for a summary for this blog and hey, it's a free plug:

“What if … you knew precisely when Microsoft’s top “ay-dash” contractors were coming off contract?  And (because you’re special), you could “cherry pick” people from the list to fill positions at your company before the rest of Seattle knew they were available?  Program, product and release managers, on-line marketing specialists; development & test; even internal IT lab managers and tech support.

You should know about DevSelect’s new experiment – code-named “Preview”.

DevSelect (http://www.devselect.com) has been in the NW contract staffing and recruiting business since 1999 -- usually associated with high tech and telecom.  In October, DevSelect began compiling a list of Microsoft contractors who were nearing their ‘break in service’ dates and quietly looking for their next assignment.  In January, DevSelect began publishing the list – with weekly updates - to a small number of favored clients.  The weekly updates are free – DevSelect makes its money when clients contract or hire someone through the program.

Interested?  Bob Waite – 206.262.1300”
 
So, bottom line? There really *isn't* that much new under the sun. Different ways of doing the same old same old. As search technology is refined, I'm sure there will be more expensive tools and techniques hitting the airwaves.


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Here's something new
posted 4/29/2008 at 7:41 a.m. PT by Kristin Gissaro

Ok, yes I am the Director of National Sales for Climber.com so I feel the need to tell you about our innovative, yes it's new, process for searching for jobs/candidates online. I also encourage you to attend a webinar with me to learn about the specifics of process. It is new to the industry and not just a way to do the same old thing.

Yes, it is a place online for jobs, BUT, and that's a big but, it is not just simply another job board. It's more like a dating site for jobs. A social network/job board hybrid.

Furthermore, we have a couple of unique pieces of technology and processes that you will not find anywhere else in the industry. I can promise you that because of the Tech-genius CEO that leads Climber.com.

It's new because:

We spent 14 months with a team of Industrial Psychologists and Consultants to review 35 years of HR data to then develop a 20 minute values assessment that then spits out their career fingerprint.

We put a set of eyes on each job entering our system to make sure it makes sense and helps the recruiter set talent volume guidelines and then monitors the job to make sure it is getting the response necessary to deliver a desired ROI.

We add a human being in between the recruiter and the candidate (since our candidate's remain anonymous) to communicate interest.

We have the technology to build the network for you of people who are qualified for your job, share similar work values and are available to being contacted.

We utilize the jobs entered into the system as the launch pad for the marketing strategy to attract like candidates to our site-which is called Requisition Driven Marketing.

We offer recruiters a place to create their own profile to then utilize it as a social networking tool for the sole purpose of finding candidates that match their criteria and enables them to network with those candidates (recruiterrockstar.com) as well as offer candidates a backstage view into the organization.

Oh yeah, and their profiles are searchable on search engines as well as can utilize a customized link on their email signatures to encourage people to view their profile. (www.RecruiterRockStar is its launch stage and is currently free for recruiters to sign up and get a feel for how it works)

Let me know if you want to hear any more.

Kristin Gissaro
Climber.com
kristing@climber.com
904-738-9533



Climber
posted 4/29/2008 at 11:03 a.m. PT by Scott Axel

I am going to admit something here Kristin.. as soon as I read

"We add a human being in between the recruiter and the candidate (since our candidate's remain anonymous) to communicate interest."

I stopped reading and will not even consider your site. This may seem like an off the wall question.. but..as a recruiter... why in the world would I want to talk to someone other than the actual candidate? I don't want to talk to a representative of a job board before I can talk to the actual candidate. That's crazy talk!



Scott, Llt me clarify...
posted 4/29/2008 at 6:30 p.m. PT by Kristin Gissaro

You are right, that is crazy talk. However, that's not what we do.

Here's how it goes down:

You, the recruiter don't talk to our Climber Career Advocates. If you are interested ih one of our anonymous Climbers, we contact the candidate and let them know you are interested in speaking with them. This protects their privacy in case their current employer sees them on the site.

So our Climber Career Advocates actually calls or emails the candidate to verify that all of their information is still current and accurate as well as let them know you, the recruiter, are interested in speaking with them. The Climber then can say yes, complete the request, or no I am not interested. Nine out 10 times I would say they say yes, and then you, the recruiter, are given access to that candidate's contact information.

Now would you consider it?



Same answer
posted 4/30/2008 at 6:29 a.m. PT by Scott Axel

No - I would not consider it.

There is no reason to have a 3rd party between myself and the candidate. Your 'career advocate' does not know what I am looking for outside of what was in the job description. Any good recruiter will tell you that there is much more to a job then what is in a posting. Even if it is just a quick "Hi Suzy, Recruiter John and Widget and Co is looking to talk to you about a Project Manager opportunity" or "Hi John, Suzy Recruiter would like to speak with you". It is a wasted step that adds time to the entire process... Also... I do not want my 'first contact' with a candidate to be through anyone other than me!

It is an extra step in the process that is not needed.

If you want to twist your service into something that is of value. Why don't you create a job board where your team verifies that contact information is still current / they are still interested in new opportunities on regular basis. Now that would be something of value. Then list the candidates as 'verified job seeker'.



Free Job Board
posted 4/30/2008 at 1:44 p.m. PT by Dennis Gorelik

Would you consider free job board as an innovation?
I mean -- free job posting, free resume search, free resume posting, free job search, free job postings distribution to job search web sites, etc ...




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