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		<title>By: Rajpreet Heir</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2013/01/15/who-the-heck-are-we-the-dilemma-of-the-corporate-recruiter/comment-page-1/#comment-86115</link>
		<dc:creator>Rajpreet Heir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 19:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Keith I believe the point of having this technology is not to  continue doing what we currently do, but to be more efficient at it. Flexibility in attending to tasks anywhere anytime opens our time to accomplish more. Therefore our jobs are secure as long as we always strive to be better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Keith I believe the point of having this technology is not to  continue doing what we currently do, but to be more efficient at it. Flexibility in attending to tasks anywhere anytime opens our time to accomplish more. Therefore our jobs are secure as long as we always strive to be better.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Gotkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Gotkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 23:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John - Great elevator speech, but would a complete layperson understand that you were a dedicated recruiter for [insert employer&#039;s name], or could they mistake you for a headhunter, contract recruiter or RPO, not that many laypeople would even understand the difference...kind of my point in the article :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John &#8211; Great elevator speech, but would a complete layperson understand that you were a dedicated recruiter for [insert employer's name], or could they mistake you for a headhunter, contract recruiter or RPO, not that many laypeople would even understand the difference&#8230;kind of my point in the article :-)</p>
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		<title>By: John Miraglia</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Miraglia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 22:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My elevator speech as a corporate recruiter.

&quot;You know how companies have difficulty finding talented new employees even with high unemployment? Well, I find and evaluate high potential candidates for ... insert employer&#039;s name...&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My elevator speech as a corporate recruiter.</p>
<p>&#8220;You know how companies have difficulty finding talented new employees even with high unemployment? Well, I find and evaluate high potential candidates for &#8230; insert employer&#8217;s name&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Halperin</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2013/01/15/who-the-heck-are-we-the-dilemma-of-the-corporate-recruiter/comment-page-1/#comment-84422</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Halperin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2013 00:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Rajpreet If we can work anywhere at anytime, then people who make much less than we do will be able to do our jobs, unless we do things which CAN&#039;T be done anywhere at anytime.  

Cheers,
Keith]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Rajpreet If we can work anywhere at anytime, then people who make much less than we do will be able to do our jobs, unless we do things which CAN&#8217;T be done anywhere at anytime.  </p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Keith</p>
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		<title>By: Rajpreet Heir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rajpreet Heir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2013 20:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;In less than 20 years, the recruiting profession has embraced technology at a dazzling rate (often putting the cart before the horse).&quot; What a cool sentence! And guess what? The embracing of new technology is only going to continue. While corporate recruiting is hard to describe now, I think it&#039;s exciting that the field is going to continue to transform. No more paper resumes...you can watch video clips of candidates! No more being constrained to reviewing applications from 9-5, you can flip through them on your phone. Corporate Recruiter I think not--Wizard of Recruiting yes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In less than 20 years, the recruiting profession has embraced technology at a dazzling rate (often putting the cart before the horse).&#8221; What a cool sentence! And guess what? The embracing of new technology is only going to continue. While corporate recruiting is hard to describe now, I think it&#8217;s exciting that the field is going to continue to transform. No more paper resumes&#8230;you can watch video clips of candidates! No more being constrained to reviewing applications from 9-5, you can flip through them on your phone. Corporate Recruiter I think not&#8211;Wizard of Recruiting yes.</p>
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		<title>By: 5 for Friday: Recruiting Trends Edition &#124; Job Opportunities For You</title>
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		<dc:creator>5 for Friday: Recruiting Trends Edition &#124; Job Opportunities For You</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 15:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Who the Heck Are We? The Dilemma of the Corporate Recruiter. ERE.net: &#8220;I’ve had these conversations for most of my 16 years as a dedicated corporate recruiter. It’s become even more complicated to explain what I do now that I’ve moved to the consulting side-of-the-house.&#8221; [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Who the Heck Are We? The Dilemma of the Corporate Recruiter. ERE.net: &#8220;I’ve had these conversations for most of my 16 years as a dedicated corporate recruiter. It’s become even more complicated to explain what I do now that I’ve moved to the consulting side-of-the-house.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Halperin</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2013/01/15/who-the-heck-are-we-the-dilemma-of-the-corporate-recruiter/comment-page-1/#comment-83377</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Halperin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 22:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Ben:  &quot;If most companies did understand the value that a strong, proactive corporate recruiting team brings, I believe that our profession as a whole would be in a very different place today.&quot;

Indeed- a large number of current Staffing Heads, Corporate Recruiters, and TP Recruiters would then be in different lines of work...

Cheers,

Keith]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Ben:  &#8220;If most companies did understand the value that a strong, proactive corporate recruiting team brings, I believe that our profession as a whole would be in a very different place today.&#8221;</p>
<p>Indeed- a large number of current Staffing Heads, Corporate Recruiters, and TP Recruiters would then be in different lines of work&#8230;</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Keith</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Gotkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Gotkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 21:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Morgan - Wonderful to hear!  I started in Executive Search myself and love the term and the association with that term as well.  I worry though that we are in the minority however, and I&#039;m not convinced that most organizations understand the value and need for a strategic Recruiting function.  Those that do reap the benefits, those that don&#039;t too often have insufficient tools, technology and recruiting team models, then wonder why Recruiting is &#039;broken&#039;.  If most companies did understand the value that a strong, proactive corporate recruiting team brings, I believe that our profession as a whole would be in a very different place today.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morgan &#8211; Wonderful to hear!  I started in Executive Search myself and love the term and the association with that term as well.  I worry though that we are in the minority however, and I&#8217;m not convinced that most organizations understand the value and need for a strategic Recruiting function.  Those that do reap the benefits, those that don&#8217;t too often have insufficient tools, technology and recruiting team models, then wonder why Recruiting is &#8216;broken&#8217;.  If most companies did understand the value that a strong, proactive corporate recruiting team brings, I believe that our profession as a whole would be in a very different place today.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol Schultz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol Schultz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 14:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bravo Morgan. Can&#039;t tell you the number of people who thought the term &quot;headhunter&quot; carried negative connotations.  I never thought so either.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo Morgan. Can&#8217;t tell you the number of people who thought the term &#8220;headhunter&#8221; carried negative connotations.  I never thought so either.</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan Hoogvelt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgan Hoogvelt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 02:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know exactly who I am.  I grew up and cut my teeth in Executive Search where I was dubbed a &quot;Head Hunter&quot;.  I personally love the term; and now I lead the recruiting functions and activities for a large organization and nothing has changed - I am still a &quot;Head Hunter&quot;, I always will be and that is the type of attitude I brought with me. 

HR/recruiting has evolved and is becoming a more integral part of every business and it very well should be.  But it has evolved also due to the fact that smary and savy Executives recognize the value and need for a strategic HR group.  

For me, as I stated, although I am internal - I am a &quot;Head Hunter&quot; as the recruiting I do internally, is no different than the recruiting I did externally.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know exactly who I am.  I grew up and cut my teeth in Executive Search where I was dubbed a &#8220;Head Hunter&#8221;.  I personally love the term; and now I lead the recruiting functions and activities for a large organization and nothing has changed &#8211; I am still a &#8220;Head Hunter&#8221;, I always will be and that is the type of attitude I brought with me. </p>
<p>HR/recruiting has evolved and is becoming a more integral part of every business and it very well should be.  But it has evolved also due to the fact that smary and savy Executives recognize the value and need for a strategic HR group.  </p>
<p>For me, as I stated, although I am internal &#8211; I am a &#8220;Head Hunter&#8221; as the recruiting I do internally, is no different than the recruiting I did externally.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Halperin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith Halperin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 22:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Josh (and to a degree: &quot;everybody&quot;): Does it matter if they do or don&#039;t understand what we do if they can&#039;t give us a new, better-paying job?

I agree we have more technology than we used to- when I started recruiting, resumes were carved from stone tablets and the fastest way of getting in touch with a candidate was by a carrier pigeon with a message tied to its leg, and we were glad for it too!...But seriously- is the time, cost, or quality of hire better than it was previously? Perhaps, perhaps not. I suspect that as we can now more quickly do some things that need to be done, the corporate &quot;bloatocracy&quot; has given us all sorts of things we can do that don&#039;t need to be done and which detract from our true purpose: quickly and affordably placing quality butts in chairs. ISTM that the more a corporate staffing department emphasizes &quot;processes&quot; over &quot;results&quot; and has staffing go more and more into peripheral activities like employment branding, employee engagement, and social networking, the less effective they are likely to be.

As far as candidate pipelines: I&#039;d LOVE to create those, but most of the time the majority of us are either drinking from the req. firehose or wondering &quot;how much longer they&#039;ll keep us around during this slowdown&quot; (during which it would be IDEAL to create pipelines) but our ever-wise Staffing Heads don&#039;t seem to head in that direction very often....(Fortunately, there are now firms I know of that will help corporations with otherwise-limited bandwidth and expertise to create candidate pipelines and provide them with the consultants to show how it&#039;s done, if the regular recruiting staff is still drinking from the firehose.)

Cheers,

Keith]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Josh (and to a degree: &#8220;everybody&#8221;): Does it matter if they do or don&#8217;t understand what we do if they can&#8217;t give us a new, better-paying job?</p>
<p>I agree we have more technology than we used to- when I started recruiting, resumes were carved from stone tablets and the fastest way of getting in touch with a candidate was by a carrier pigeon with a message tied to its leg, and we were glad for it too!&#8230;But seriously- is the time, cost, or quality of hire better than it was previously? Perhaps, perhaps not. I suspect that as we can now more quickly do some things that need to be done, the corporate &#8220;bloatocracy&#8221; has given us all sorts of things we can do that don&#8217;t need to be done and which detract from our true purpose: quickly and affordably placing quality butts in chairs. ISTM that the more a corporate staffing department emphasizes &#8220;processes&#8221; over &#8220;results&#8221; and has staffing go more and more into peripheral activities like employment branding, employee engagement, and social networking, the less effective they are likely to be.</p>
<p>As far as candidate pipelines: I&#8217;d LOVE to create those, but most of the time the majority of us are either drinking from the req. firehose or wondering &#8220;how much longer they&#8217;ll keep us around during this slowdown&#8221; (during which it would be IDEAL to create pipelines) but our ever-wise Staffing Heads don&#8217;t seem to head in that direction very often&#8230;.(Fortunately, there are now firms I know of that will help corporations with otherwise-limited bandwidth and expertise to create candidate pipelines and provide them with the consultants to show how it&#8217;s done, if the regular recruiting staff is still drinking from the firehose.)</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Keith</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Tolan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Tolan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 21:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Really interesting article about corporate recruiting. It’s true, many people just don’t understand what it is a corporate recruiter actually does. As you mentioned, corporate recruiting has really jumped on the technology bandwagon in the last 10 to 20 years. So much about recruiting has changed as technological tools have made it easier for recruiters to find and connect with top candidates. Whether it’s video interviewing or social media interaction, it’s now much easier for recruiters to build up a talent pipeline even outside recruiting for a specific position. This is one reason why more formalized education and career development might be a good idea in the world of corporate recruiting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really interesting article about corporate recruiting. It’s true, many people just don’t understand what it is a corporate recruiter actually does. As you mentioned, corporate recruiting has really jumped on the technology bandwagon in the last 10 to 20 years. So much about recruiting has changed as technological tools have made it easier for recruiters to find and connect with top candidates. Whether it’s video interviewing or social media interaction, it’s now much easier for recruiters to build up a talent pipeline even outside recruiting for a specific position. This is one reason why more formalized education and career development might be a good idea in the world of corporate recruiting.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol Schultz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol Schultz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ben:  Agreed.  Not familiar with any of the recruiter training programs specifically.  This situation is a common one within the coaching industry.  There are many places to get training but no industry standard...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben:  Agreed.  Not familiar with any of the recruiter training programs specifically.  This situation is a common one within the coaching industry.  There are many places to get training but no industry standard&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Gotkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Gotkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Carol - Thank you! I do believe that there are some minimum standards that the profession should be able to measure itself by. What minimum knowledge, skills and abilities should one have to become a successful recruiter?  There are many recruiter training programs that exist today, many of which are very good, but nothing based on common or minimum standards or on any particular academic discipline.  It would seem to me to make a lot of sense to understand not only what a recruiter does, but what makes someone a competent recruiter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carol &#8211; Thank you! I do believe that there are some minimum standards that the profession should be able to measure itself by. What minimum knowledge, skills and abilities should one have to become a successful recruiter?  There are many recruiter training programs that exist today, many of which are very good, but nothing based on common or minimum standards or on any particular academic discipline.  It would seem to me to make a lot of sense to understand not only what a recruiter does, but what makes someone a competent recruiter.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Halperin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith Halperin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you, Ben. IMHO, much of what CRs (internal or contract) so should be either no-sourced (eliminated), through-sourced (automated) or out-sourced (sent away). It&#039;s low-touch, low-value add transactional work like data  entry/documentation, job-posting, board-scraping, he vast majority of sourcing/candidate development, and scheduling/coordinating interviews. We should concentrate on the $50/hr or more high-touch, high-value add strategic work- counseling, mentoring, streamlining and improving practices, CLOSING.

Before we start formalizing the field, we need to create Generally Accepted Recruiting Practices (GARPs) based on evidence and research. I think these will be a long time in coming, because so much recruiting is based on the Greed, Arrogance, Fear, and Ignorance/Incompetence  (GAFI) of the Founders, CXOs, Sr. Executives and the recruiting heads who help create/maintain the largely dysfunctional &quot;bloatocracies&quot; in which many of us work.


Cheers,

Keith]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Ben. IMHO, much of what CRs (internal or contract) so should be either no-sourced (eliminated), through-sourced (automated) or out-sourced (sent away). It&#8217;s low-touch, low-value add transactional work like data  entry/documentation, job-posting, board-scraping, he vast majority of sourcing/candidate development, and scheduling/coordinating interviews. We should concentrate on the $50/hr or more high-touch, high-value add strategic work- counseling, mentoring, streamlining and improving practices, CLOSING.</p>
<p>Before we start formalizing the field, we need to create Generally Accepted Recruiting Practices (GARPs) based on evidence and research. I think these will be a long time in coming, because so much recruiting is based on the Greed, Arrogance, Fear, and Ignorance/Incompetence  (GAFI) of the Founders, CXOs, Sr. Executives and the recruiting heads who help create/maintain the largely dysfunctional &#8220;bloatocracies&#8221; in which many of us work.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Keith</p>
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		<title>By: ERE Article - Who the Heck Are We? The Dilemma of the Corporate Recruiter &#124; Recruiting Toolbox</title>
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		<dc:creator>ERE Article - Who the Heck Are We? The Dilemma of the Corporate Recruiter &#124; Recruiting Toolbox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] The corporate recruiting function as we know it today has matured rapidly over the past two decades.  Now is the time to question and discuss the purpose and value of corporate recruiters, and how we want to grow and develop corporate recruiters going forward.  To read more and join the discussion, click here. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The corporate recruiting function as we know it today has matured rapidly over the past two decades.  Now is the time to question and discuss the purpose and value of corporate recruiters, and how we want to grow and develop corporate recruiters going forward.  To read more and join the discussion, click here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Carol Schultz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol Schultz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 16:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ben:  Very good article.  I think the most significant point is a method for formalizing recruiting training and education.  Standards will vary depending on situation.  I have often thought about the best method to begin a recruiter training program...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben:  Very good article.  I think the most significant point is a method for formalizing recruiting training and education.  Standards will vary depending on situation.  I have often thought about the best method to begin a recruiter training program&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Gotkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Gotkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 16:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Richard - I&#039;m not sure that formalizing recruiting education and standards necessarily has to limit creativity and flexibility, and I agree that simply creating certifications and degree programs alone don&#039;t solve this issue.  But I do believe that more formal education and recruiter development programs would go a long way to further legitimize the corporate recruiting function.

John - You are correct there are some people who go into recruiting to advance their HR careers.  But there are also many corporate recruiters who want to continue along a recruiting career path that is not supported within the HR organization.  I&#039;ve believed for a long time that Recruiting and HR Generalist professions have very different skill sets.  Recruiting skill sets are much more aligned to sales and marketing, are more proactive, creative, strong at building/balancing internal and external relationships, and are short-term goal oriented, whereas HR Generalist skill sets are often more reactive in nature, focused on managing process, procedures and policies, are strong at building and maintaining internal relationships, and supporting longer-term organizational goals.  This is a key reason why some HR Generalists who do not have strong recruiting skill sets struggle when they need to recruit as a part of their job.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard &#8211; I&#8217;m not sure that formalizing recruiting education and standards necessarily has to limit creativity and flexibility, and I agree that simply creating certifications and degree programs alone don&#8217;t solve this issue.  But I do believe that more formal education and recruiter development programs would go a long way to further legitimize the corporate recruiting function.</p>
<p>John &#8211; You are correct there are some people who go into recruiting to advance their HR careers.  But there are also many corporate recruiters who want to continue along a recruiting career path that is not supported within the HR organization.  I&#8217;ve believed for a long time that Recruiting and HR Generalist professions have very different skill sets.  Recruiting skill sets are much more aligned to sales and marketing, are more proactive, creative, strong at building/balancing internal and external relationships, and are short-term goal oriented, whereas HR Generalist skill sets are often more reactive in nature, focused on managing process, procedures and policies, are strong at building and maintaining internal relationships, and supporting longer-term organizational goals.  This is a key reason why some HR Generalists who do not have strong recruiting skill sets struggle when they need to recruit as a part of their job.</p>
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		<title>By: John Kreiss</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Kreiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 15:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are people who go into recruiting because they see it as a stepping stone to get into HR which has a lot of different functions above and beyond recruiting.  Do recruiting for a few years (according to this school of thought) and, then he/she can move on to bigger and better things.  
 
That perception of recruiting as a grunt-level stepping stone, unfortunately, exists in a lot of organizations.  In many companies, recruiters are low paid, entry level staff who come and go, and   it should be no surprise that in these types of organizations that some managers will go to headhunters who they&#039;ve known for years, and trust.  

It&#039;s difficult for a seasoned executive to have confidence in a corporate recruiter who isn&#039;t yet old enough to shave, and that&#039;s a challenge for many young corporate recruiters.  

The corporate recruiter has a tough job.  He/she has to gain the trust of managers, and deliver on what are often unrealistic expectations.  The amount of jobs many of them have to fill can often be overwhelming.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are people who go into recruiting because they see it as a stepping stone to get into HR which has a lot of different functions above and beyond recruiting.  Do recruiting for a few years (according to this school of thought) and, then he/she can move on to bigger and better things.  </p>
<p>That perception of recruiting as a grunt-level stepping stone, unfortunately, exists in a lot of organizations.  In many companies, recruiters are low paid, entry level staff who come and go, and   it should be no surprise that in these types of organizations that some managers will go to headhunters who they&#8217;ve known for years, and trust.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s difficult for a seasoned executive to have confidence in a corporate recruiter who isn&#8217;t yet old enough to shave, and that&#8217;s a challenge for many young corporate recruiters.  </p>
<p>The corporate recruiter has a tough job.  He/she has to gain the trust of managers, and deliver on what are often unrealistic expectations.  The amount of jobs many of them have to fill can often be overwhelming.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Araujo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Araujo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 14:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A nice article overall, but I have to disagree with the conclusion.  I think the strength of recruiting, corporate or agency, is that it is a bottom up driven culture with little formalization at the top.  That makes it easier to try new methods and approaches.  And yes, that leads to a lot of dead ends, but you can&#039;t find new paths without occasionally heading down some dead end ones.  Recruiting is one of the areas where your ability to actually produce a valuable result is a determining factor in your career, as opposed to how many acronyms you have after your name.  I like that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A nice article overall, but I have to disagree with the conclusion.  I think the strength of recruiting, corporate or agency, is that it is a bottom up driven culture with little formalization at the top.  That makes it easier to try new methods and approaches.  And yes, that leads to a lot of dead ends, but you can&#8217;t find new paths without occasionally heading down some dead end ones.  Recruiting is one of the areas where your ability to actually produce a valuable result is a determining factor in your career, as opposed to how many acronyms you have after your name.  I like that.</p>
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