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		<title>By: Jim Roddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Roddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 14:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Trevi: Here are 8 standard questions that I&#039;ve asked during reference checks. The heart of the conversation is #3.

1. What are your general thoughts on him/her?

2. What three words would you use to describe him/her?  

3. I have some questions regarding his/her ability to (Identified Aversions).  

4. Explain the position we’re hiring for.  Do you think that would be a good fit? How so?

5. Tell me about their performance when they receive work assignments, takeaways, or projects. Did they turn in completed work within established timelines? Did they require reminders or multiple revisions to the work turned in?

6.Did he/she have any signed agreements with your company that may limit his/her activities, e.g. non-compete, non-tamper, confidentiality or intellectual property agreements?

7. Would you rehire him/her? 

8. Is there anything else you know about him/her that might be helpful in making our decision?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trevi: Here are 8 standard questions that I&#8217;ve asked during reference checks. The heart of the conversation is #3.</p>
<p>1. What are your general thoughts on him/her?</p>
<p>2. What three words would you use to describe him/her?  </p>
<p>3. I have some questions regarding his/her ability to (Identified Aversions).  </p>
<p>4. Explain the position we’re hiring for.  Do you think that would be a good fit? How so?</p>
<p>5. Tell me about their performance when they receive work assignments, takeaways, or projects. Did they turn in completed work within established timelines? Did they require reminders or multiple revisions to the work turned in?</p>
<p>6.Did he/she have any signed agreements with your company that may limit his/her activities, e.g. non-compete, non-tamper, confidentiality or intellectual property agreements?</p>
<p>7. Would you rehire him/her? </p>
<p>8. Is there anything else you know about him/her that might be helpful in making our decision?</p>
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		<title>By: Trevi Lim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trevi Lim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 13:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Awesome article... I wished I knew these  8 points to do a reference check years ago. Can I please ask what are the typical questions you would ask during a reference check? Thanks]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome article&#8230; I wished I knew these  8 points to do a reference check years ago. Can I please ask what are the typical questions you would ask during a reference check? Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Roddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Roddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 17:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Feona: Here&#039;s more data that says, &quot;For goodness sake, don&#039;t stop conducting reference checks!

References can help you detect dishonest applicants, survey indicates

Twenty-nine percent of hiring managers who check applicants&#039; references say they&#039;ve uncovered faked references in the process, a CareerBuilder survey finds. More than two-thirds of employers say they&#039;ve changed their mind about an applicant after speaking to a reference, the survey found. 

http://msn.careerbuilder.com/Article/MSN-3213-Job-Search-Do-references-matter-in-a-job-search/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Feona: Here&#8217;s more data that says, &#8220;For goodness sake, don&#8217;t stop conducting reference checks!</p>
<p>References can help you detect dishonest applicants, survey indicates</p>
<p>Twenty-nine percent of hiring managers who check applicants&#8217; references say they&#8217;ve uncovered faked references in the process, a CareerBuilder survey finds. More than two-thirds of employers say they&#8217;ve changed their mind about an applicant after speaking to a reference, the survey found. </p>
<p><a href="http://msn.careerbuilder.com/Article/MSN-3213-Job-Search-Do-references-matter-in-a-job-search/" rel="nofollow">http://msn.careerbuilder.com/Article/MSN-3213-Job-Search-Do-references-matter-in-a-job-search/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim Roddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Roddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 13:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for commenting Feona. I don&#039;t know what you&#039;ll find in research, but anecdotally I&#039;ve heard horror stories of hiring managers who didn&#039;t conduct thorough reference checks and got burnt. If you follow the steps above and advice from other folks making comments, your business will be able to get value out of reference checks.

One anecdote for you: Notre Dame is #1 in the country in football now, but it took them YEARS to recover from their lack of reference checking. 

http://www.yourememberthat.com/media/12862/George_O_Leary_Resume_Scandal/#.ULdf24ZMek8]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for commenting Feona. I don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;ll find in research, but anecdotally I&#8217;ve heard horror stories of hiring managers who didn&#8217;t conduct thorough reference checks and got burnt. If you follow the steps above and advice from other folks making comments, your business will be able to get value out of reference checks.</p>
<p>One anecdote for you: Notre Dame is #1 in the country in football now, but it took them YEARS to recover from their lack of reference checking. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.yourememberthat.com/media/12862/George_O_Leary_Resume_Scandal/#.ULdf24ZMek8" rel="nofollow">http://www.yourememberthat.com/media/12862/George_O_Leary_Resume_Scandal/#.ULdf24ZMek8</a></p>
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		<title>By: feona veys</title>
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		<dc:creator>feona veys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2012 11:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very interesting reading. I have been asked to do some research into giving up taking references for new employees which is an idea that causes me great concern.  This view point is being taken due to a time issue and the fact that references seem now just to confirm dates and job title and nothing else.  Its fascinating to see that other organisations seem to be conducting very indepth reference checking from previous employers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting reading. I have been asked to do some research into giving up taking references for new employees which is an idea that causes me great concern.  This view point is being taken due to a time issue and the fact that references seem now just to confirm dates and job title and nothing else.  Its fascinating to see that other organisations seem to be conducting very indepth reference checking from previous employers.</p>
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		<title>By: Workforce Development News &#8211; Nov. 5, 2012 &#124; Workforce Solutions Group &#124; St. Louis Community College</title>
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		<dc:creator>Workforce Development News &#8211; Nov. 5, 2012 &#124; Workforce Solutions Group &#124; St. Louis Community College</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 15:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Workforce Development News &#8211; November 5, 2012 &#124; STLCC Corporate College</title>
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		<dc:creator>Workforce Development News &#8211; November 5, 2012 &#124; STLCC Corporate College</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 15:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] “These actions will help you conduct a real reference check instead of a quick cursory call: http://www.ere.net/2012/10/30/real-reference-checks-require-these-8-steps/ [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] “These actions will help you conduct a real reference check instead of a quick cursory call: <a href="http://www.ere.net/2012/10/30/real-reference-checks-require-these-8-steps/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ere.net/2012/10/30/real-reference-checks-require-these-8-steps/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David Arnold</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 16:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I certainly think reference checks are an imperative component of the hiring process, but apparently the former boss who responded to a phone inquiry by saying &quot;...the candidate left his company because he was caught stealing and that several co-workers thanked him for firing the man, whose arrogance regularly offended them. &#039;I wouldn’t hire him again if you gave me a million dollars&#039; hadn&#039;t been well schooled by his HR or legal staff on the liabilities associated with making such volatile statements when providing a reference. 

Dave Arnold, Ph.D., J.D.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I certainly think reference checks are an imperative component of the hiring process, but apparently the former boss who responded to a phone inquiry by saying &#8220;&#8230;the candidate left his company because he was caught stealing and that several co-workers thanked him for firing the man, whose arrogance regularly offended them. &#8216;I wouldn’t hire him again if you gave me a million dollars&#8217; hadn&#8217;t been well schooled by his HR or legal staff on the liabilities associated with making such volatile statements when providing a reference. </p>
<p>Dave Arnold, Ph.D., J.D.</p>
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		<title>By: Philippe F</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philippe F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, a lot of common sense here, so I can only agree.

I have a very, very strong issue with the fact of calling references the candidate did not provide though.
Here&#039;s why:

1. First and foremost, it might simply be illegal in some countries, ethically disputable or contradictory with the guarantees provided to the candidate. 

2. Methodologically: we human beings naturally tend to give more weight to negative feedback than to positive one. Therefore instead of getting a balanced, global picture of a candidate&#039;s track record, you might as well end up your quest for absolute objectivity with the exact opposite (even if most negative feedbacks are hardly as bad as the example provided above).
I tend to think that Point 4 of the article only underlines this risk.

3. There is no perfect, flawless candidate, just like there is no perfect company. Hiring remains a human process where once a reasonable amount of guarantees have been provided and test passed, sane subjectivity and trust should -and will anyway- apply.

4. Risk: are you ready to freak out a great candidate who may not appreciate such a move?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, a lot of common sense here, so I can only agree.</p>
<p>I have a very, very strong issue with the fact of calling references the candidate did not provide though.<br />
Here&#8217;s why:</p>
<p>1. First and foremost, it might simply be illegal in some countries, ethically disputable or contradictory with the guarantees provided to the candidate. </p>
<p>2. Methodologically: we human beings naturally tend to give more weight to negative feedback than to positive one. Therefore instead of getting a balanced, global picture of a candidate&#8217;s track record, you might as well end up your quest for absolute objectivity with the exact opposite (even if most negative feedbacks are hardly as bad as the example provided above).<br />
I tend to think that Point 4 of the article only underlines this risk.</p>
<p>3. There is no perfect, flawless candidate, just like there is no perfect company. Hiring remains a human process where once a reasonable amount of guarantees have been provided and test passed, sane subjectivity and trust should -and will anyway- apply.</p>
<p>4. Risk: are you ready to freak out a great candidate who may not appreciate such a move?</p>
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		<title>By: Cheri Hanson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheri Hanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, Keith--that was initially a concern of ours as well, but we have not found much resistance from candidates.  You can decide where in your process you want to complete the references.  Additionally, we don&#039;t require candidates to list their current supervisor as a reference; they are free to use previous supervisors, colleagues, or clients as they choose.  The product graphically show the recency and the length of the relationships the candidate has with their references, so you can also determine at a glance the freshness and depth of information you&#039;re getting from the candidate.   

For executive candidates, we sometimes move the check to occur post offer to be sensitive to the nature of their positions.  It&#039;s up to you as an organization what practices you want to put in place.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Keith&#8211;that was initially a concern of ours as well, but we have not found much resistance from candidates.  You can decide where in your process you want to complete the references.  Additionally, we don&#8217;t require candidates to list their current supervisor as a reference; they are free to use previous supervisors, colleagues, or clients as they choose.  The product graphically show the recency and the length of the relationships the candidate has with their references, so you can also determine at a glance the freshness and depth of information you&#8217;re getting from the candidate.   </p>
<p>For executive candidates, we sometimes move the check to occur post offer to be sensitive to the nature of their positions.  It&#8217;s up to you as an organization what practices you want to put in place.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Halperin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith Halperin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Cheri: I think there are many people who would object to provide references prior to a pending offer.

Keith]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Cheri: I think there are many people who would object to provide references prior to a pending offer.</p>
<p>Keith</p>
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		<title>By: Cheri Hanson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheri Hanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 14:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I recommend using Checkster, another automated reference checking system similar to SkillSurvey.  We&#039;ve been using this for over two years and have seen the following results:

--dramatic reduction in recruiter time to collect and review references&#039; feedback
--completion rate of about 2 days, on average
--ability to capture more than the standard 2-3 references.  You can control the minimum number the candidate needs to provide. We typically obtain 5 or 6 references&#039; feedback per candidate
--you can customize the questions posed to the reference provider to get at exactly the information you want to know about the candidate
--all feedback is summarized and anonymized, so references feel free to provide constructive, candid information about the candidates&#039; strengths, accomplishments and opportunities for improvement
--the tool has mechanisms in place to identify and notify us of potentially fraudulent reference checks (great way to screen out those lacking integrity and honesty before they&#039;re in the door!)
--because the time element is reduced, we moved up the reference check in the selection process to occur prior to interviews, allowing recruiters to have more insightful information to share with hiring managers about the candidates they&#039;re going to be meeting--it increases their ability to be true talent advisors to their hiring  managers.  The recruiters share areas to probe during the interview.  By moving it up before the finalist decision is made, it also allows for healthy skepticism to remain in this step, as Jim mentions in the article.  

As the world continues to move to relying on social feedback about all sorts of products (think customer feedback ratings on Amazon, TripAdvisor, Yelp, etc.), reference providers are comfortable with providing similarly frank information about potential candidates for your jobs. 
 
I&#039;d highly recommend looking at an automated solution like Checkster to maximize the value of the reference check process.  It will more than pay for itself in the rich, robust information you can obtain about your potential talent and increase your overall quality of hires.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recommend using Checkster, another automated reference checking system similar to SkillSurvey.  We&#8217;ve been using this for over two years and have seen the following results:</p>
<p>&#8211;dramatic reduction in recruiter time to collect and review references&#8217; feedback<br />
&#8211;completion rate of about 2 days, on average<br />
&#8211;ability to capture more than the standard 2-3 references.  You can control the minimum number the candidate needs to provide. We typically obtain 5 or 6 references&#8217; feedback per candidate<br />
&#8211;you can customize the questions posed to the reference provider to get at exactly the information you want to know about the candidate<br />
&#8211;all feedback is summarized and anonymized, so references feel free to provide constructive, candid information about the candidates&#8217; strengths, accomplishments and opportunities for improvement<br />
&#8211;the tool has mechanisms in place to identify and notify us of potentially fraudulent reference checks (great way to screen out those lacking integrity and honesty before they&#8217;re in the door!)<br />
&#8211;because the time element is reduced, we moved up the reference check in the selection process to occur prior to interviews, allowing recruiters to have more insightful information to share with hiring managers about the candidates they&#8217;re going to be meeting&#8211;it increases their ability to be true talent advisors to their hiring  managers.  The recruiters share areas to probe during the interview.  By moving it up before the finalist decision is made, it also allows for healthy skepticism to remain in this step, as Jim mentions in the article.  </p>
<p>As the world continues to move to relying on social feedback about all sorts of products (think customer feedback ratings on Amazon, TripAdvisor, Yelp, etc.), reference providers are comfortable with providing similarly frank information about potential candidates for your jobs. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d highly recommend looking at an automated solution like Checkster to maximize the value of the reference check process.  It will more than pay for itself in the rich, robust information you can obtain about your potential talent and increase your overall quality of hires.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Schmitt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Schmitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 02:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jim, thanks for the great and honest article. As you described, it is so important to take the necessary time and prepare for a reference check. As the owner of a boutique executive search firm, we pride ourselves on conducting thorough reference checks, to complement the chemistry and technical fit of our placements. I consider a reference to have been insightful and honest, only if I can get the individual to provide me with some true &quot;areas of development&quot; for the candidate. It takes some doing, and you have to work your way up to asking the question, but if a reference is willing to provide the positive AND negative attributes of the candidate, you can put assign more validity to the reference. Furthermore, rather than asking the typical &quot;what are her weaknesses?&quot;, we approach the subject by asking &quot;what would it take for Sally to be a perfect 10 in her career?&quot; We preface this by saying &quot;we all have things that we&#039;re working on in order to add more value and improve our contributions, and none of us are a perfect 10&quot;...  While it&#039;s not foolproof, we have found a direct correlation between the tenure and fit of the candidate, and our ability to truly get to know them through these in depth references.
Ken Schmitt
President/Founder, TurningPoint Executive Search
www.turningpointsearch.net]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, thanks for the great and honest article. As you described, it is so important to take the necessary time and prepare for a reference check. As the owner of a boutique executive search firm, we pride ourselves on conducting thorough reference checks, to complement the chemistry and technical fit of our placements. I consider a reference to have been insightful and honest, only if I can get the individual to provide me with some true &#8220;areas of development&#8221; for the candidate. It takes some doing, and you have to work your way up to asking the question, but if a reference is willing to provide the positive AND negative attributes of the candidate, you can put assign more validity to the reference. Furthermore, rather than asking the typical &#8220;what are her weaknesses?&#8221;, we approach the subject by asking &#8220;what would it take for Sally to be a perfect 10 in her career?&#8221; We preface this by saying &#8220;we all have things that we&#8217;re working on in order to add more value and improve our contributions, and none of us are a perfect 10&#8243;&#8230;  While it&#8217;s not foolproof, we have found a direct correlation between the tenure and fit of the candidate, and our ability to truly get to know them through these in depth references.<br />
Ken Schmitt<br />
President/Founder, TurningPoint Executive Search<br />
<a href="http://www.turningpointsearch.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.turningpointsearch.net</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kes Thygesen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kes Thygesen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 01:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great points. Reference checks can be time consuming, especially if you’re not fully prepared. You’re right though -- blind references garner the best results. But encouraging employee referrals can help with the reference process too. If your current employees have recommendations on new hires they know in the field, hear them out. You’ll have one reference, contact information, and you can go from there. Cheers!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great points. Reference checks can be time consuming, especially if you’re not fully prepared. You’re right though &#8212; blind references garner the best results. But encouraging employee referrals can help with the reference process too. If your current employees have recommendations on new hires they know in the field, hear them out. You’ll have one reference, contact information, and you can go from there. Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Roddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Roddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 19:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks to everyone for your kind words about this article.

@Erin: I agree with your point. The example I illustrated didn&#039;t include a conversation with the candidate first because my co-worker had a personal relationship with the former boss. It was more of a friend-to-friend call. We honestly expected the ex-boss to lavish the candidate with praise and were caught off-guard with the damning information he provided to us.

@Susan: I agree with your behavior-based approach. We had a candidate who left what seemed like a good job after just one year and he said it was &quot;a mutual understanding&quot; but he wasn&#039;t at liberty to say much else. All the other data we had said he was a good fit for our job, but this situation was still hanging out there and his former boss wouldn&#039;t call us back despite my repeated attempts. Very suspicious. So I put in a call to an long-time employee to ask what the story was -- and to see if it jived with the candidate&#039;s story. The rep was positive about the candidate but very vague about why he left. The rep later called me from home to say, &quot;I couldn&#039;t tell you at work, but they forced him out and wouldn&#039;t give him a reason, but the real reason they let him go was so the owner could give his son a job! [Name of candidate] was great to work with but he had the wrong bloodlines.&quot; That data helped us understand the candidate was being up front with us. He&#039;s been an excellent employee of ours for nearly a half decade ... and our owner has committed his kids will work for other businesses, not ours.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to everyone for your kind words about this article.</p>
<p>@Erin: I agree with your point. The example I illustrated didn&#8217;t include a conversation with the candidate first because my co-worker had a personal relationship with the former boss. It was more of a friend-to-friend call. We honestly expected the ex-boss to lavish the candidate with praise and were caught off-guard with the damning information he provided to us.</p>
<p>@Susan: I agree with your behavior-based approach. We had a candidate who left what seemed like a good job after just one year and he said it was &#8220;a mutual understanding&#8221; but he wasn&#8217;t at liberty to say much else. All the other data we had said he was a good fit for our job, but this situation was still hanging out there and his former boss wouldn&#8217;t call us back despite my repeated attempts. Very suspicious. So I put in a call to an long-time employee to ask what the story was &#8212; and to see if it jived with the candidate&#8217;s story. The rep was positive about the candidate but very vague about why he left. The rep later called me from home to say, &#8220;I couldn&#8217;t tell you at work, but they forced him out and wouldn&#8217;t give him a reason, but the real reason they let him go was so the owner could give his son a job! [Name of candidate] was great to work with but he had the wrong bloodlines.&#8221; That data helped us understand the candidate was being up front with us. He&#8217;s been an excellent employee of ours for nearly a half decade &#8230; and our owner has committed his kids will work for other businesses, not ours.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin Borgerson</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2012/10/30/real-reference-checks-require-these-8-steps/comment-page-1/#comment-72705</link>
		<dc:creator>Erin Borgerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 17:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great article with practical advice for improving what can often be a &quot;messy&quot; art. My only qualm is that calling on references the candidate did not provide can put a bad taste in that candidate&#039;s mouth, and can even be seen as an invasion of privacy. 

Another way of getting more accurate references is to tell the candidate which of their previous supervisors you&#039;d like to be connected with. That way, if you get any hesitation, there&#039;s your red flag! And, if not - call them up and look for intonation: If that previous employer would not emphatically rehire that candidate, keep pressing...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article with practical advice for improving what can often be a &#8220;messy&#8221; art. My only qualm is that calling on references the candidate did not provide can put a bad taste in that candidate&#8217;s mouth, and can even be seen as an invasion of privacy. </p>
<p>Another way of getting more accurate references is to tell the candidate which of their previous supervisors you&#8217;d like to be connected with. That way, if you get any hesitation, there&#8217;s your red flag! And, if not &#8211; call them up and look for intonation: If that previous employer would not emphatically rehire that candidate, keep pressing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Theresa Mazzaro</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2012/10/30/real-reference-checks-require-these-8-steps/comment-page-1/#comment-72702</link>
		<dc:creator>Theresa Mazzaro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 16:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In my opinion, Skill Survey makes the BEST option for the most accurate information. We love it for hiring the best nurses - they have science behind their surveys - customized per type of job we hire for...the added plus for us is the Passive Candidate Report that gives us candidates to source! We, as Recruiters have to control the &quot;who&quot; the candidates enter, but after that - it&#039;s wonderful! Our hiring managers love it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion, Skill Survey makes the BEST option for the most accurate information. We love it for hiring the best nurses &#8211; they have science behind their surveys &#8211; customized per type of job we hire for&#8230;the added plus for us is the Passive Candidate Report that gives us candidates to source! We, as Recruiters have to control the &#8220;who&#8221; the candidates enter, but after that &#8211; it&#8217;s wonderful! Our hiring managers love it.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Burke</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2012/10/30/real-reference-checks-require-these-8-steps/comment-page-1/#comment-72701</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan Burke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 16:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great article with immediately implementable advice, Jim.  I certainly agree with all of your suggestions.
One of my favorite techniques for developing questions to ask references is to utilize the same behavior-based questions I used during the interview.  Here&#039;s a very simple example.  If I asked the candidate, &quot;Tell me about a time when you were under a lot of pressure with a large number of competing priorities.  How did you prioritize your work?  Were you able to get everything done on time?  Did you feel you had to sacrifice quality in order to meet your deadlines?  What did you learn from this experience?&quot;  I might then tell the reference that the job requires the ability for this person to handle a large volume of competing priorities in a high-stress environment (and probably would describe what I meant by that) and then ask them if they can tell me about a time when this was the case when that person worked for them.  I&#039;d follow up by asking how the person seemed to handle the stress, how they prioritized (did they ask their manager, did they seek help from co-workers, etc), and whether everything was done on time and with quality.
Another option... if the answer the candidate gave me to the question during the interview included an example of something that happened while working with/for the reference, I might bring up that situation, tell the reference what the candidate described, and ask them if that&#039;s the way they saw the same situation.
I generally get much better, higher-quality, and valuable (vs cursory) information by using this technique.

Susan]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article with immediately implementable advice, Jim.  I certainly agree with all of your suggestions.<br />
One of my favorite techniques for developing questions to ask references is to utilize the same behavior-based questions I used during the interview.  Here&#8217;s a very simple example.  If I asked the candidate, &#8220;Tell me about a time when you were under a lot of pressure with a large number of competing priorities.  How did you prioritize your work?  Were you able to get everything done on time?  Did you feel you had to sacrifice quality in order to meet your deadlines?  What did you learn from this experience?&#8221;  I might then tell the reference that the job requires the ability for this person to handle a large volume of competing priorities in a high-stress environment (and probably would describe what I meant by that) and then ask them if they can tell me about a time when this was the case when that person worked for them.  I&#8217;d follow up by asking how the person seemed to handle the stress, how they prioritized (did they ask their manager, did they seek help from co-workers, etc), and whether everything was done on time and with quality.<br />
Another option&#8230; if the answer the candidate gave me to the question during the interview included an example of something that happened while working with/for the reference, I might bring up that situation, tell the reference what the candidate described, and ask them if that&#8217;s the way they saw the same situation.<br />
I generally get much better, higher-quality, and valuable (vs cursory) information by using this technique.</p>
<p>Susan</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Halperin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith Halperin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 15:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Carol: Well said. Regular reference checks are mainly due-diligence CYA.

Cheers,
Keith]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Carol: Well said. Regular reference checks are mainly due-diligence CYA.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Keith</p>
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		<title>By: Carol Schultz</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2012/10/30/real-reference-checks-require-these-8-steps/comment-page-1/#comment-72696</link>
		<dc:creator>Carol Schultz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 14:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jim:  This is right on point.  I will say that the best references are &quot;blind&quot; ones and this takes great skill.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim:  This is right on point.  I will say that the best references are &#8220;blind&#8221; ones and this takes great skill.</p>
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