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		<title>By: Nathaniel Barr</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2012/08/31/why-hiring-should-be-more-like-buying-a-used-car/comment-page-1/#comment-74932</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathaniel Barr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 17:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m a little late to the discussion, but I&#039;m curious about the outcome of Barry and Deborah&#039;s discussion.

Barry - it appears that you were investigating other assessment tools. How&#039;s that going? Deborah mentioned that there are different types of assessments and I&#039;d like to highlight that statement. There are definitely tests that measure a person in a specific moment, but there are other tests that measure a person&#039;s long-term persona and abilities.

Further to that, a valid and reliable assessment can also predict future success by comparing the individual tested against a benchmark of desired traits. That&#039;s where you really dive deep and see how well a person will perform.

I&#039;m glad you&#039;re looking at multiple assessments and would encourage you to continue. How did your review of McQuaig go?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a little late to the discussion, but I&#8217;m curious about the outcome of Barry and Deborah&#8217;s discussion.</p>
<p>Barry &#8211; it appears that you were investigating other assessment tools. How&#8217;s that going? Deborah mentioned that there are different types of assessments and I&#8217;d like to highlight that statement. There are definitely tests that measure a person in a specific moment, but there are other tests that measure a person&#8217;s long-term persona and abilities.</p>
<p>Further to that, a valid and reliable assessment can also predict future success by comparing the individual tested against a benchmark of desired traits. That&#8217;s where you really dive deep and see how well a person will perform.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;re looking at multiple assessments and would encourage you to continue. How did your review of McQuaig go?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Vogel</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2012/08/31/why-hiring-should-be-more-like-buying-a-used-car/comment-page-1/#comment-68225</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Vogel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2012 15:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Keith,
There are a plethora of valid assessments available with new players entering the market often – you can search on “pre-hire assessment” and find options at varying price points. In evaluating the tools and how to best implement, I particularly liked Dr. Charles Handler’s perspective that he offered earlier in the year: http://www.ere.net/2012/04/11/grow-up-already-evaluating-your-pre-employment-assessment-maturity-level/

Personally, I happen to like the assessment system we are currently using because it incorporates cognitive and personality into one instrument, plus it maintains a database of candidates that continue to be used in sourcing efforts.  It also has a matching functionality for promotion or development as well as crowd matching. Further, the subscription pricing makes it very affordable.   After looking at several assessment offerings a few years back, we chose Affintus.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith,<br />
There are a plethora of valid assessments available with new players entering the market often – you can search on “pre-hire assessment” and find options at varying price points. In evaluating the tools and how to best implement, I particularly liked Dr. Charles Handler’s perspective that he offered earlier in the year: <a href="http://www.ere.net/2012/04/11/grow-up-already-evaluating-your-pre-employment-assessment-maturity-level/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ere.net/2012/04/11/grow-up-already-evaluating-your-pre-employment-assessment-maturity-level/</a></p>
<p>Personally, I happen to like the assessment system we are currently using because it incorporates cognitive and personality into one instrument, plus it maintains a database of candidates that continue to be used in sourcing efforts.  It also has a matching functionality for promotion or development as well as crowd matching. Further, the subscription pricing makes it very affordable.   After looking at several assessment offerings a few years back, we chose Affintus.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Deutsch</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2012/08/31/why-hiring-should-be-more-like-buying-a-used-car/comment-page-1/#comment-68222</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry Deutsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2012 15:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I use the 16PF as the primary tool in my executive search practice, and am starting to test a tool called the McQuaig. I also recommend to some of my clients for specific roles - usually around technology that they use the Wonderlic Cognitive Intelligence Test. The other tool I&#039;ve had a lot of success with is one put out by Calipers.

Barry]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use the 16PF as the primary tool in my executive search practice, and am starting to test a tool called the McQuaig. I also recommend to some of my clients for specific roles &#8211; usually around technology that they use the Wonderlic Cognitive Intelligence Test. The other tool I&#8217;ve had a lot of success with is one put out by Calipers.</p>
<p>Barry</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Halperin</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2012/08/31/why-hiring-should-be-more-like-buying-a-used-car/comment-page-1/#comment-68184</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Halperin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 22:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Dr. Kerr. Can you recommend some general cognitive ability and personality tests which are reliable, affordable, and do not have adverse impact? 

Cheers,

Keith]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Dr. Kerr. Can you recommend some general cognitive ability and personality tests which are reliable, affordable, and do not have adverse impact? </p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Keith</p>
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		<dc:creator>Why Hiring Should Be More Like Buying a Used Car &#124; Affintus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 17:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Barry Deutsch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry Deutsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 19:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Deborah,

My issue is not whether testing is valid, but rather whether it is really predictive in hiring - especially for candidates in roles that require a fair amount of experience and seniority. My perception is that most testing will give you a data point of where someone is right now - not how they will respond in your unique role and culture.

That gap between what they bring to the table (current data on skills/cognitive intelligence/personality) does not translate well as predictive indicators of performance on a practical basis for most hiring.

My recommendation for my executive search clients, and in the workshops I lead for CEOs and key executives is to test, test, and test some more. However, I recommend the tests be used as a validation, verification, and vetting approach of what was heard-seen in the interview process, not as a decision making tool or predictor of future performance.

Thanks again for pointing out some good research on the use of testing in hiring.

Barry]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deborah,</p>
<p>My issue is not whether testing is valid, but rather whether it is really predictive in hiring &#8211; especially for candidates in roles that require a fair amount of experience and seniority. My perception is that most testing will give you a data point of where someone is right now &#8211; not how they will respond in your unique role and culture.</p>
<p>That gap between what they bring to the table (current data on skills/cognitive intelligence/personality) does not translate well as predictive indicators of performance on a practical basis for most hiring.</p>
<p>My recommendation for my executive search clients, and in the workshops I lead for CEOs and key executives is to test, test, and test some more. However, I recommend the tests be used as a validation, verification, and vetting approach of what was heard-seen in the interview process, not as a decision making tool or predictor of future performance.</p>
<p>Thanks again for pointing out some good research on the use of testing in hiring.</p>
<p>Barry</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah Kerr</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2012/08/31/why-hiring-should-be-more-like-buying-a-used-car/comment-page-1/#comment-68117</link>
		<dc:creator>Deborah Kerr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 17:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Mr. Deutsch -

Thanks for your comment!  It is true that job knowledge and skills tests as well as interviews can be useful, but we are writing about a different kind of assessment: cognitive ability and personality testing which are known to be correlated with future job success.   There is quite a large body of research about valid assessment as a predictor of future performance - it actually produces the highest correlation to future success.  

We agree about being “overly dependent” on a single assessment and the need for a good interview as well as other kinds of content knowledge testing.  We are big fans of data-driven decision making and believe that each aspect of the selection process can deliver information useful in making a selection decision, but each should be applied knowing the strengths and limitations ( or correlations) of the tests used in each step in the decision process.  (&quot;tests&quot; here refers to each activity that either eliminates or includes an applicant during the selection process - see the fact sheet for the EEOC&#039;s Uniform Guidelines on Employee Selection Procedures available at www.eeoc.gov/policy/docs/factemployment_procedures.html.  

SHRM has a very useful section, too: http://www.shrm.org/LegalIssues/FederalResources/FederalStatutesRegulationsandGuidanc/Pages/Uniformguidelinesonselectionprocedures.aspx

For a good overview on the subject of assessment and how the results correlate to future success, you may find these articles useful: 

Schmidt, Frank L. and Hunter, John E. 1998. The validity and utility of selection methods in personnel psychology: Practical and theoretical implications of 85 years of research findings. Psychological Bulletin 12: 262-274.  

Robertson, I. T. Smith, Mike. 2001. Personnel selection. Journal of Occupational &amp; Organizational Psychology 74(4): 441-472.

Deborah and Brian]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr. Deutsch -</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment!  It is true that job knowledge and skills tests as well as interviews can be useful, but we are writing about a different kind of assessment: cognitive ability and personality testing which are known to be correlated with future job success.   There is quite a large body of research about valid assessment as a predictor of future performance &#8211; it actually produces the highest correlation to future success.  </p>
<p>We agree about being “overly dependent” on a single assessment and the need for a good interview as well as other kinds of content knowledge testing.  We are big fans of data-driven decision making and believe that each aspect of the selection process can deliver information useful in making a selection decision, but each should be applied knowing the strengths and limitations ( or correlations) of the tests used in each step in the decision process.  (&#8220;tests&#8221; here refers to each activity that either eliminates or includes an applicant during the selection process &#8211; see the fact sheet for the EEOC&#8217;s Uniform Guidelines on Employee Selection Procedures available at <a href="http://www.eeoc.gov/policy/docs/factemployment_procedures.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.eeoc.gov/policy/docs/factemployment_procedures.html</a>.  </p>
<p>SHRM has a very useful section, too: <a href="http://www.shrm.org/LegalIssues/FederalResources/FederalStatutesRegulationsandGuidanc/Pages/Uniformguidelinesonselectionprocedures.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.shrm.org/LegalIssues/FederalResources/FederalStatutesRegulationsandGuidanc/Pages/Uniformguidelinesonselectionprocedures.aspx</a></p>
<p>For a good overview on the subject of assessment and how the results correlate to future success, you may find these articles useful: </p>
<p>Schmidt, Frank L. and Hunter, John E. 1998. The validity and utility of selection methods in personnel psychology: Practical and theoretical implications of 85 years of research findings. Psychological Bulletin 12: 262-274.  </p>
<p>Robertson, I. T. Smith, Mike. 2001. Personnel selection. Journal of Occupational &amp; Organizational Psychology 74(4): 441-472.</p>
<p>Deborah and Brian</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Deutsch</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2012/08/31/why-hiring-should-be-more-like-buying-a-used-car/comment-page-1/#comment-68039</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry Deutsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2012 23:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The author recommends using &quot;scientific&quot; assessments to determine whether to hire a candidate and paints the metaphor of using an independent auto mechanic to validate the working condition of the car right at the time of purchase.

This is why the metaphor is broken. Doing assessments on skills and personality does not predict future performance. It can assess the precise level of the knowledge or skill at the time of the interview, but it cannot determine how the candidate will apply those skills and knowledge in your unique role in your unique environment.

I do believe skill and personality testing can play a role in validating what you heard from the interview. However, nothing should take the place of a well thought-out performance/success based interview process.

Too many companies have made the mistake of being overly dependent on testing.

Barry Deutsch
IMPACT Hiring Solutions
http://www.impacthiringsolutions.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The author recommends using &#8220;scientific&#8221; assessments to determine whether to hire a candidate and paints the metaphor of using an independent auto mechanic to validate the working condition of the car right at the time of purchase.</p>
<p>This is why the metaphor is broken. Doing assessments on skills and personality does not predict future performance. It can assess the precise level of the knowledge or skill at the time of the interview, but it cannot determine how the candidate will apply those skills and knowledge in your unique role in your unique environment.</p>
<p>I do believe skill and personality testing can play a role in validating what you heard from the interview. However, nothing should take the place of a well thought-out performance/success based interview process.</p>
<p>Too many companies have made the mistake of being overly dependent on testing.</p>
<p>Barry Deutsch<br />
IMPACT Hiring Solutions<br />
<a href="http://www.impacthiringsolutions.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.impacthiringsolutions.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sylvia Dahlby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sylvia Dahlby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2012 02:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[LOL - I have often told prospective customers to buy an ATS like they&#039;re buying a used car. Many of these same principles apply to HR/recruiting technology evaluation - it&#039;s great advice to focus on what you really want and &quot;...don&#039;t be distracted by the fuzzy dice...&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL &#8211; I have often told prospective customers to buy an ATS like they&#8217;re buying a used car. Many of these same principles apply to HR/recruiting technology evaluation &#8211; it&#8217;s great advice to focus on what you really want and &#8220;&#8230;don&#8217;t be distracted by the fuzzy dice&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Halperin</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2012/08/31/why-hiring-should-be-more-like-buying-a-used-car/comment-page-1/#comment-67987</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Halperin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 20:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you, Dr. Kerr and Mr. Vogel. An additional point to make is that often recruiters are like and sometimes WERE used carsales(wo)men...

Cheers,

Keith]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Dr. Kerr and Mr. Vogel. An additional point to make is that often recruiters are like and sometimes WERE used carsales(wo)men&#8230;</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Keith</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Vogel</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2012/08/31/why-hiring-should-be-more-like-buying-a-used-car/comment-page-1/#comment-67981</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Vogel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 18:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ziv, 
Certainly agree that references can prove valuable when information will be openly shared. Sticking with the buying of a used car analogy, one can certainly ask someone who rode in and/or drove the vehicle how the ride was but aren&#039;t they probably going to respond with the usual: “yes, I rode in this vehicle from this date to this date” and nothing more? Filling in the blank with a scientific instrument that provides facts we believe is the better route.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ziv,<br />
Certainly agree that references can prove valuable when information will be openly shared. Sticking with the buying of a used car analogy, one can certainly ask someone who rode in and/or drove the vehicle how the ride was but aren&#8217;t they probably going to respond with the usual: “yes, I rode in this vehicle from this date to this date” and nothing more? Filling in the blank with a scientific instrument that provides facts we believe is the better route.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Tolan</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2012/08/31/why-hiring-should-be-more-like-buying-a-used-car/comment-page-1/#comment-67979</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Tolan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 18:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great comparison, Deborah! In some cases, the interview (over-the-phone, video, or in-person) cannot be the deciding factor when hiring new employees; assessment tests certainly are necessary at times. However, it should be given its due. Interviews help employers see past a candidate’s new coat of paint into his rusty, duct taped interior. Interviews may not eliminate all candidates in all circumstances, but they always narrow the pool of candidates significantly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great comparison, Deborah! In some cases, the interview (over-the-phone, video, or in-person) cannot be the deciding factor when hiring new employees; assessment tests certainly are necessary at times. However, it should be given its due. Interviews help employers see past a candidate’s new coat of paint into his rusty, duct taped interior. Interviews may not eliminate all candidates in all circumstances, but they always narrow the pool of candidates significantly.</p>
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		<title>By: John McCormack</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2012/08/31/why-hiring-should-be-more-like-buying-a-used-car/comment-page-1/#comment-67972</link>
		<dc:creator>John McCormack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 15:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The assessment analogy also applies here: how good a match is the vehicle for the way you intend to use it?  What is the likelihood that I can keep it running smoothly and how should I go about maintaining it?  How upgradable is it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The assessment analogy also applies here: how good a match is the vehicle for the way you intend to use it?  What is the likelihood that I can keep it running smoothly and how should I go about maintaining it?  How upgradable is it?</p>
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		<title>By: Ronald Katz</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2012/08/31/why-hiring-should-be-more-like-buying-a-used-car/comment-page-1/#comment-67970</link>
		<dc:creator>Ronald Katz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 15:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Really good piece! I love the car buying analogy. You&#039;re right assessments and testing are the fact gathering we&#039;d get from a &quot;trusted mechanic&quot; (boy, there are two words you don&#039;t often see side by side).  Reference checking is another key ingredient. 

Here&#039;s an interesting tidbit about references or &quot;try before you buy&quot; to keep your analogy going. As stated in a post from this summer (http://penguinhr.com/blog/?p=84) 76% of companies do check references for all the people they hire. 69% of people check out a restaurant online or with friends before eating there, but only 3%  check out a hospital&#039;s rep before undergoing voluntary surgery (we&#039;re not talking ER here). Talk about the potential for buyer&#039;s remorse!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really good piece! I love the car buying analogy. You&#8217;re right assessments and testing are the fact gathering we&#8217;d get from a &#8220;trusted mechanic&#8221; (boy, there are two words you don&#8217;t often see side by side).  Reference checking is another key ingredient. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an interesting tidbit about references or &#8220;try before you buy&#8221; to keep your analogy going. As stated in a post from this summer (<a href="http://penguinhr.com/blog/?p=84" rel="nofollow">http://penguinhr.com/blog/?p=84</a>) 76% of companies do check references for all the people they hire. 69% of people check out a restaurant online or with friends before eating there, but only 3%  check out a hospital&#8217;s rep before undergoing voluntary surgery (we&#8217;re not talking ER here). Talk about the potential for buyer&#8217;s remorse!</p>
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		<title>By: Ziv Eliraz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ziv Eliraz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 14:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Get a trusted reference/referral&quot; is missing - fourth row on the right. Not always possible, but certainly very useful when you can! Getting a reference from someone who actually &quot;drove the car&quot; for a few months is a great way to figure out how it works (pun unavoidable...)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Get a trusted reference/referral&#8221; is missing &#8211; fourth row on the right. Not always possible, but certainly very useful when you can! Getting a reference from someone who actually &#8220;drove the car&#8221; for a few months is a great way to figure out how it works (pun unavoidable&#8230;)</p>
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