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	<title>Comments on: Most Sourcing Is Painfully Dull &#8212; It&#8217;s Time to Try Some Creative Approaches</title>
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		<title>By: Fresh Recruiting Ideas &#124;</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2012/06/25/most-sourcing-is-painfully-dull-its-time-to-try-some-creative-approaches/comment-page-1/#comment-68576</link>
		<dc:creator>Fresh Recruiting Ideas &#124;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 20:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Something Dr. Sullivan doesn&#8217;t say is that you can get an edge with variables such as how well you write your job posting, screen resumes and candidates, and conduct behavioral interviews. However, he does share a list of 20 ideas for creative recruiting sources that can help you not only access previously unreached candidates but also build your company brand. While you won&#8217;t likely use every idea, this article is worth reading.  [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Something Dr. Sullivan doesn&#8217;t say is that you can get an edge with variables such as how well you write your job posting, screen resumes and candidates, and conduct behavioral interviews. However, he does share a list of 20 ideas for creative recruiting sources that can help you not only access previously unreached candidates but also build your company brand. While you won&#8217;t likely use every idea, this article is worth reading.  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Spend Navigator &#187; Variety is the Spice of Life &#8211; Especially In Sourcing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spend Navigator &#187; Variety is the Spice of Life &#8211; Especially In Sourcing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2012 15:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] to his or her desired supplier. To view Sullivan&#8217;s article in its entirety, please visit: http://www.ere.net/2012/06/25/most-sourcing-is-painfully-dull-its-time-to-try-some-creative-approach....                 Aldo Forlini &#124; No [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to his or her desired supplier. To view Sullivan&#8217;s article in its entirety, please visit: http://www.ere.net/2012/06/25/most-sourcing-is-painfully-dull-its-time-to-try-some-creative-approach&#8230;.                 Aldo Forlini | No [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Halperin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith Halperin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 15:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Dr. Sullivan.

&quot;A List of 20 Proven “Creative Recruiting Sources” That Most Are Not Using
Below you’ll find a list of sourcing approaches that would have to be classified as “creative” simply because so many corporations don’t have the courage to try them.&quot;

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Proven by whom to do what? Hire large numbers of quality people quickly and effectively? If so- I&#039;m dubious.

As Jim Shaw wisely said (referring to traditional methods): &quot;Maybe it’s because those “traditional and well-established” sources are effective.&quot;

Fundamentally, sourcing/finding decentcandidates is NOT the current main problem. IMHO, the current main problem is getting managers to hire the kind of candiates they can reasonably expect to get with the level of compensation, benefits, etc, they have to offer. Experienced recruiters need to educate managers to get over their priveleged, entitled mentality, i.e., help them realize:
&quot;They (and their companies) AREN&#039;T that special.&quot;

Cheers,

Keith &quot;Been Super Work-Busy&quot; Halperin]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Dr. Sullivan.</p>
<p>&#8220;A List of 20 Proven “Creative Recruiting Sources” That Most Are Not Using<br />
Below you’ll find a list of sourcing approaches that would have to be classified as “creative” simply because so many corporations don’t have the courage to try them.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>Proven by whom to do what? Hire large numbers of quality people quickly and effectively? If so- I&#8217;m dubious.</p>
<p>As Jim Shaw wisely said (referring to traditional methods): &#8220;Maybe it’s because those “traditional and well-established” sources are effective.&#8221;</p>
<p>Fundamentally, sourcing/finding decentcandidates is NOT the current main problem. IMHO, the current main problem is getting managers to hire the kind of candiates they can reasonably expect to get with the level of compensation, benefits, etc, they have to offer. Experienced recruiters need to educate managers to get over their priveleged, entitled mentality, i.e., help them realize:<br />
&#8220;They (and their companies) AREN&#8217;T that special.&#8221;</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Keith &#8220;Been Super Work-Busy&#8221; Halperin</p>
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		<title>By: Doe eens gek, doe het anders, maar doe het goed &#124; wervingsvisies</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doe eens gek, doe het anders, maar doe het goed &#124; wervingsvisies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 07:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sandra McCartt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandra McCartt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 22:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s see.
Billboards, check, did that in the late 70&#039;s early 80&#039;s.

Newspaper ads, check, did that in mid 70&#039;s

Recruiting at non recruiting events, Check, Oh, God does this mean i have to go back to those things called the Chamber After Hours and those 5:00 AM Business Breakfast thingys, sponsor Symphony events and do those 4th of July flag waving, cow chip tossing contests.  Oh Lord.

Direct Mail, check, i know those post cards and letters are still here someplace in an old filing cabinet when we stuck them in 95&#039;.

Consumer Products, check, somebody find those signs we put on the city buses and in taxi&#039;s and the airport and all that stuff we used to put on bulletin boards in college laundries and don&#039;t forget those flyers we paid kids to put on car windows at the mall and football games and concerts.

And while we are gasping in awe at all this new creative stuff somebody call the Donut Stop and tell them we will start sending donuts to companies with our business cards in the box every Friday morning again.

Anybody seen my bell bottom jeans, hippie beads and i&#039;ll be right back, running to the salon to have my hair straightened, parted in the middle and find a headband.

Creativity rocks on man, farmhouse! Peace Out!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s see.<br />
Billboards, check, did that in the late 70&#8242;s early 80&#8242;s.</p>
<p>Newspaper ads, check, did that in mid 70&#8242;s</p>
<p>Recruiting at non recruiting events, Check, Oh, God does this mean i have to go back to those things called the Chamber After Hours and those 5:00 AM Business Breakfast thingys, sponsor Symphony events and do those 4th of July flag waving, cow chip tossing contests.  Oh Lord.</p>
<p>Direct Mail, check, i know those post cards and letters are still here someplace in an old filing cabinet when we stuck them in 95&#8242;.</p>
<p>Consumer Products, check, somebody find those signs we put on the city buses and in taxi&#8217;s and the airport and all that stuff we used to put on bulletin boards in college laundries and don&#8217;t forget those flyers we paid kids to put on car windows at the mall and football games and concerts.</p>
<p>And while we are gasping in awe at all this new creative stuff somebody call the Donut Stop and tell them we will start sending donuts to companies with our business cards in the box every Friday morning again.</p>
<p>Anybody seen my bell bottom jeans, hippie beads and i&#8217;ll be right back, running to the salon to have my hair straightened, parted in the middle and find a headband.</p>
<p>Creativity rocks on man, farmhouse! Peace Out!</p>
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		<title>By: What was Old is New! &#124; runningrecruiter</title>
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		<dc:creator>What was Old is New! &#124; runningrecruiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dina Hemmi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dina Hemmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 00:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While traditional sources can be effective, they often do not capture the attention of the passive job seekers. In my opinion the most effective way to recruit the best candidates is through targeted searches utilizing social media, networking and competitive analysis combined. This method, while lengthy in up front time, is highly effective and reaches a pool of untapped talent. Companies grow primarily by gaining market share and what better way to help them gain market share and have a distinct advantage than recruiting directly out of their competitors. I think the days of “cold calling” out of the competition while seeming more traditional and archaic is most effective and often the least utilized method in recruiting. This method is what separates the “good from the great” in both candidates and recruiters. 

Dina Hemmi 
http://www.Turningpointsearch.net]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While traditional sources can be effective, they often do not capture the attention of the passive job seekers. In my opinion the most effective way to recruit the best candidates is through targeted searches utilizing social media, networking and competitive analysis combined. This method, while lengthy in up front time, is highly effective and reaches a pool of untapped talent. Companies grow primarily by gaining market share and what better way to help them gain market share and have a distinct advantage than recruiting directly out of their competitors. I think the days of “cold calling” out of the competition while seeming more traditional and archaic is most effective and often the least utilized method in recruiting. This method is what separates the “good from the great” in both candidates and recruiters. </p>
<p>Dina Hemmi<br />
<a href="http://www.Turningpointsearch.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.Turningpointsearch.net</a></p>
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		<title>By: Maureen Sharib</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maureen Sharib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2012 15:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Michael;

I suspect it didn&#039;t make the list because Dr. Sullivan&#039;s management students didn&#039;t THINK to do it!  I&#039;m sure Dr. Sullivan learns more from his students (as all good teachers do) than they do from him!

I envy Dr. Sullivan&#039;s access to the brain trust though I am doubly pleased that even they didn&#039;t think about phone sourcing.  It shows just how creative, unique and elegant it really is!

&quot;Something is elegant if it is two things at once: unusually simple and surprisingly powerful.” – Matthew E. May. 

Maureen Sharib
Phone Sourcer
513 899 962]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael;</p>
<p>I suspect it didn&#8217;t make the list because Dr. Sullivan&#8217;s management students didn&#8217;t THINK to do it!  I&#8217;m sure Dr. Sullivan learns more from his students (as all good teachers do) than they do from him!</p>
<p>I envy Dr. Sullivan&#8217;s access to the brain trust though I am doubly pleased that even they didn&#8217;t think about phone sourcing.  It shows just how creative, unique and elegant it really is!</p>
<p>&#8220;Something is elegant if it is two things at once: unusually simple and surprisingly powerful.” – Matthew E. May. </p>
<p>Maureen Sharib<br />
Phone Sourcer<br />
513 899 962</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Sandiford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Sandiford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2012 09:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some great ideas posted however I think that Social Media still has ways to be innovative and is probably one of the ways you really can stand out from the crowd. Taking away just advertising on Linkedin, which some may say is not &quot;social media&quot;, businesses have an opportunity to promote their brand via many different portals and can reach a far more targeted audience than say an advert in a newspaper or a billboard. Company facebook pages, combining brand with employment is one key area.  Forums and blogs I completely agree with and if you want a &quot;Talent community&quot; you need a reason for them to stay and listen. 

The fastest growing websites in the world are Social media sites, being innovative using these can make you stand out and be infront of the right people. Job boards again will always continue to deliver as long as there is unemployment, again there is more to how you use a Job board rather than just posting a job and hoping for response.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some great ideas posted however I think that Social Media still has ways to be innovative and is probably one of the ways you really can stand out from the crowd. Taking away just advertising on Linkedin, which some may say is not &#8220;social media&#8221;, businesses have an opportunity to promote their brand via many different portals and can reach a far more targeted audience than say an advert in a newspaper or a billboard. Company facebook pages, combining brand with employment is one key area.  Forums and blogs I completely agree with and if you want a &#8220;Talent community&#8221; you need a reason for them to stay and listen. </p>
<p>The fastest growing websites in the world are Social media sites, being innovative using these can make you stand out and be infront of the right people. Job boards again will always continue to deliver as long as there is unemployment, again there is more to how you use a Job board rather than just posting a job and hoping for response.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Glenn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Glenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Maureen I guess Phone Sourcing did not make the list because it&#039;s a &quot;creative sourcing&quot; method that most are not using...

@ Dr. John A lot good ideas, but some of these are a huge time suck. Most IT recruiters have a huge req load and going off the beaten path to find one candidate can cause a disruption in candidate flow. And what if that one candidate decides NOT to make a move? 

And, video games? Web design companies should have Flash based games on their careers page because it would attract the right kind of candidates.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Maureen I guess Phone Sourcing did not make the list because it&#8217;s a &#8220;creative sourcing&#8221; method that most are not using&#8230;</p>
<p>@ Dr. John A lot good ideas, but some of these are a huge time suck. Most IT recruiters have a huge req load and going off the beaten path to find one candidate can cause a disruption in candidate flow. And what if that one candidate decides NOT to make a move? </p>
<p>And, video games? Web design companies should have Flash based games on their careers page because it would attract the right kind of candidates.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Shaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[According to Dr. Sullivan:

&quot;more than 90% of corporate hires come from traditional and well-established recruiting sources (i.e. referrals, job boards, the career site, direct sourcing, college career centers, social media, and career fairs).&quot; And &quot; Seventy-five percent of all hires come from the same five sources.&quot;

Maybe it&#039;s because those &quot;traditional and well-established&quot; sources are effective.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to Dr. Sullivan:</p>
<p>&#8220;more than 90% of corporate hires come from traditional and well-established recruiting sources (i.e. referrals, job boards, the career site, direct sourcing, college career centers, social media, and career fairs).&#8221; And &#8221; Seventy-five percent of all hires come from the same five sources.&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s because those &#8220;traditional and well-established&#8221; sources are effective.</p>
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		<title>By: Geraldine Slevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geraldine Slevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2012 19:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a really great critical look at the sometimes-stagnant world of recruiting. One channel for recruiting that contains a lot of room for creativity and innovation is social, where apps like Work for Us (www.work4labs.com) allow a lot of customization as well as intelligent targeting to certain candidates and broadcasting across other channels. 

Thanks for the great article!
Geraldine]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a really great critical look at the sometimes-stagnant world of recruiting. One channel for recruiting that contains a lot of room for creativity and innovation is social, where apps like Work for Us (www.work4labs.com) allow a lot of customization as well as intelligent targeting to certain candidates and broadcasting across other channels. </p>
<p>Thanks for the great article!<br />
Geraldine</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Rego</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean Rego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2012 18:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dr. John,

Thank you for sharing a great article regarding Creative Recruitment Sourcing.  Very insightful and informative.

Best Regards
Sean Rego]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. John,</p>
<p>Thank you for sharing a great article regarding Creative Recruitment Sourcing.  Very insightful and informative.</p>
<p>Best Regards<br />
Sean Rego</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff (Jeffrey) Perry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff (Jeffrey) Perry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2012 15:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for this message. There is risk in trying non-conventional approaches but there is also opportunity in going where your prospects are and competition is not. 

Other opportunities: recruiting on your local newspaper website. Check out the demographics of the readers and you&#039;ll likely find above average incomes and education. Look at the Business section to recruit for Managers/Directors/Executives or Accounting/Finance or Sales professionals. Sports tends to be well suited for IT and Engineering professionals. Every recruitment campaign I&#039;ve run for clients in these areas has received in the realm of 5x the industry standard response rate and in one recent case drove over 100 people to a company&#039;s Career site in a week. 

Behavioral Targeting: there are vendors out there who follow people&#039;s behavior on the web and can figure out who IT professionals are, for example, by the conferences the register for, sites they frequent, industry groups they are members of, etc. Can also be used for diverse talent, nurses, and other professionals.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this message. There is risk in trying non-conventional approaches but there is also opportunity in going where your prospects are and competition is not. </p>
<p>Other opportunities: recruiting on your local newspaper website. Check out the demographics of the readers and you&#8217;ll likely find above average incomes and education. Look at the Business section to recruit for Managers/Directors/Executives or Accounting/Finance or Sales professionals. Sports tends to be well suited for IT and Engineering professionals. Every recruitment campaign I&#8217;ve run for clients in these areas has received in the realm of 5x the industry standard response rate and in one recent case drove over 100 people to a company&#8217;s Career site in a week. </p>
<p>Behavioral Targeting: there are vendors out there who follow people&#8217;s behavior on the web and can figure out who IT professionals are, for example, by the conferences the register for, sites they frequent, industry groups they are members of, etc. Can also be used for diverse talent, nurses, and other professionals.</p>
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		<title>By: Maureen Sharib</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maureen Sharib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2012 14:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe I missed it but phone sourcing was glaringly absent from your list of 20.
Few do it and therein lies the competitive damage - oops! I mean advantage.

&quot;if everyone else uses the same sources as you do, your firm simply cannot gain a competitive advantage over your talent competitors. Being a unique user of an effective source does provide a competitive advantage.&quot; ~Dr. John Sullivan, 2012

Thanks for the message, though.

Maureen Sharib
Phone Sourcer
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I missed it but phone sourcing was glaringly absent from your list of 20.<br />
Few do it and therein lies the competitive damage &#8211; oops! I mean advantage.</p>
<p>&#8220;if everyone else uses the same sources as you do, your firm simply cannot gain a competitive advantage over your talent competitors. Being a unique user of an effective source does provide a competitive advantage.&#8221; ~Dr. John Sullivan, 2012</p>
<p>Thanks for the message, though.</p>
<p>Maureen Sharib<br />
Phone Sourcer<br />
513 899 9628</p>
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