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		<title>By: How To Write A Software Engineering Resume &#124; AdSpecs Advertising Specialist</title>
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		<dc:creator>How To Write A Software Engineering Resume &#124; AdSpecs Advertising Specialist</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: 7 Best Recruitment Marketing Articles of the Week (5.22.10 to 5.28.10) &#171; Recruitment Marketing Innovation, Technology and Ideas</title>
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		<dc:creator>7 Best Recruitment Marketing Articles of the Week (5.22.10 to 5.28.10) &#171; Recruitment Marketing Innovation, Technology and Ideas</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Keith Halperin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith Halperin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 20:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm. As a lazy recruiter, I want my information neat, tidy, meaningful, and in one place. I&#039;m waiting for the &quot;Digital Dossier&quot;:
essentially it combines this: http://tinyurl.com/clojez (a cleaned-up Google search) with a future version of this: http://www.spokeo.com/search?q=keith%20halperin#:1553627997 
(I say future version because some of this info on me is wrong) plus some datamining intelligence, to tell you all about me, and what others think of me, and what I think about what others think of me, etc.... 

There will always be a number of people who won&#039;t have web presences, but that number will tend to diminish over time and then hit a plateau. I can easily imagine a time when employers will say something like:
&quot;Individuals with Public Digital Dossiers of under 20kbyte are normally ineligible for employment. We thank you for your interest in....&quot;
If anybody here is old enough to remember &quot;*Max Headroom&quot; from 1987-88, then they may recall that people who had wiped away their public identities were called &quot;blanks,&quot; and were implicitly considered criminals. (This was calculated to be around 2004-2005). Well, we&#039;re not there yet....

Cheers,

Keith &quot;C-c-c-c-atch the Wave&quot; Halperin

*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Headroom_(TV_series)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm. As a lazy recruiter, I want my information neat, tidy, meaningful, and in one place. I&#8217;m waiting for the &#8220;Digital Dossier&#8221;:<br />
essentially it combines this: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/clojez" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/clojez</a> (a cleaned-up Google search) with a future version of this: <a href="http://www.spokeo.com/search?q=keith%20halperin#:1553627997" rel="nofollow">http://www.spokeo.com/search?q=keith%20halperin#:1553627997</a><br />
(I say future version because some of this info on me is wrong) plus some datamining intelligence, to tell you all about me, and what others think of me, and what I think about what others think of me, etc&#8230;. </p>
<p>There will always be a number of people who won&#8217;t have web presences, but that number will tend to diminish over time and then hit a plateau. I can easily imagine a time when employers will say something like:<br />
&#8220;Individuals with Public Digital Dossiers of under 20kbyte are normally ineligible for employment. We thank you for your interest in&#8230;.&#8221;<br />
If anybody here is old enough to remember &#8220;*Max Headroom&#8221; from 1987-88, then they may recall that people who had wiped away their public identities were called &#8220;blanks,&#8221; and were implicitly considered criminals. (This was calculated to be around 2004-2005). Well, we&#8217;re not there yet&#8230;.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Keith &#8220;C-c-c-c-atch the Wave&#8221; Halperin</p>
<p>*<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Headroom_(TV_series)" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Headroom_(TV_series)</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Baldwin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan Baldwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 17:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI, and this group may be a little beyond this, I&#039;ll be doing a webinar on June 9th through IPAC related to this topic: http://www.ipacweb.org/webinar1006.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI, and this group may be a little beyond this, I&#8217;ll be doing a webinar on June 9th through IPAC related to this topic: <a href="http://www.ipacweb.org/webinar1006.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ipacweb.org/webinar1006.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rainer Seitz</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2010/05/26/profiles-the-new-resume/comment-page-1/#comment-24963</link>
		<dc:creator>Rainer Seitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 15:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charles - I&#039;d like to hear more thoughts from you on incorporating assessment results in an online profile. I can see a whole host of reasons why this would not work, but maybe I&#039;m being overly pessimistic about it.

Robert - according to a recent survey commissioned by Microsoft, companies are actually requiring their recruiters to research their candidates on FB, etc. You can download a pdf of the survey report at the link below. I also recently blogged about this at the Workforce Institute website.

http://www.microsoft.com/privacy/dpd/research.aspx

http://www.workforceinstitute.org/blog/whats-your-online-reputation/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles &#8211; I&#8217;d like to hear more thoughts from you on incorporating assessment results in an online profile. I can see a whole host of reasons why this would not work, but maybe I&#8217;m being overly pessimistic about it.</p>
<p>Robert &#8211; according to a recent survey commissioned by Microsoft, companies are actually requiring their recruiters to research their candidates on FB, etc. You can download a pdf of the survey report at the link below. I also recently blogged about this at the Workforce Institute website.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.microsoft.com/privacy/dpd/research.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.microsoft.com/privacy/dpd/research.aspx</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.workforceinstitute.org/blog/whats-your-online-reputation/" rel="nofollow">http://www.workforceinstitute.org/blog/whats-your-online-reputation/</a></p>
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		<title>By: charles handler</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles handler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 15:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree about not replacing the human element when it comes to hiring.  BUT how many humans does it take to screen 1,000 resumes and what is the resulting consistency and objectivity of their efforts?

Assessments, interviews, etc are all pieces of information that are useful for helping experts make informed decisions.  They are tools for helping to screen in candidates who appear to have the best match to the job&#039;s requirements.

Resumes and screening tools serve to help screen out those that do not have basic qualifications and as such are more amenable to automation.  Such automation is not necessarily important in every scenario (i.e., few applicants for an opening) but can have tremendous value in others (i.e., high volume hiring).

I should have qualified my statement a bit in the article.  However, this does not change the fact that the basic info now found on resumes will eventually be presented in a different way.  Perhaps a rose by any other name....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree about not replacing the human element when it comes to hiring.  BUT how many humans does it take to screen 1,000 resumes and what is the resulting consistency and objectivity of their efforts?</p>
<p>Assessments, interviews, etc are all pieces of information that are useful for helping experts make informed decisions.  They are tools for helping to screen in candidates who appear to have the best match to the job&#8217;s requirements.</p>
<p>Resumes and screening tools serve to help screen out those that do not have basic qualifications and as such are more amenable to automation.  Such automation is not necessarily important in every scenario (i.e., few applicants for an opening) but can have tremendous value in others (i.e., high volume hiring).</p>
<p>I should have qualified my statement a bit in the article.  However, this does not change the fact that the basic info now found on resumes will eventually be presented in a different way.  Perhaps a rose by any other name&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Bialk</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2010/05/26/profiles-the-new-resume/comment-page-1/#comment-24957</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Bialk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 15:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KC I agree that smart and better hires are made by leveraging all of the resources that you listed. What you have to wrestle with is the following:
1.) Changing behavior
2.) Conforming to the existing hiring process (corporate mandated compliance, workflow, assessments, reference check, background check...)
3.) Does the process scale for companies that are Global, hire from many locations and have many people involved in hiring process.
4.)Combined with a combination of lazy recruiters and many recruiters that have too large of workload. Do you agree that many companies would frown and be upset if they saw their HR people using Facebook or Twitter as hiring information points.
I totally agree that the resume is a component of hiring and becoming less the focal point. However in many companies if you told the hiring manager to check out their Facebook, Twitter and blog they would potentially push back on value or process or look at it as an invasion of the candidates privacy (even though it is &quot;public&quot;)
So to Katie&#039;s question which is brilliant is &quot;How do we find the balance?&quot;
My question to the recruiter world is when they are scheduling an interview is the first step in process be it good or bad; &quot;Let&#039;s discuss or review your resume?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KC I agree that smart and better hires are made by leveraging all of the resources that you listed. What you have to wrestle with is the following:<br />
1.) Changing behavior<br />
2.) Conforming to the existing hiring process (corporate mandated compliance, workflow, assessments, reference check, background check&#8230;)<br />
3.) Does the process scale for companies that are Global, hire from many locations and have many people involved in hiring process.<br />
4.)Combined with a combination of lazy recruiters and many recruiters that have too large of workload. Do you agree that many companies would frown and be upset if they saw their HR people using Facebook or Twitter as hiring information points.<br />
I totally agree that the resume is a component of hiring and becoming less the focal point. However in many companies if you told the hiring manager to check out their Facebook, Twitter and blog they would potentially push back on value or process or look at it as an invasion of the candidates privacy (even though it is &#8220;public&#8221;)<br />
So to Katie&#8217;s question which is brilliant is &#8220;How do we find the balance?&#8221;<br />
My question to the recruiter world is when they are scheduling an interview is the first step in process be it good or bad; &#8220;Let&#8217;s discuss or review your resume?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Sullivan</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2010/05/26/profiles-the-new-resume/comment-page-1/#comment-24956</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Sullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 15:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No matter what you call it; resume, profile, Q/A forms or whatever there will alwyas be a need for INFORMATION about potential candidates.  So the true question is how to deal with the information, not what format it comes to you, and what you DO with it once you have it in your hands.  Computers don&#039;t hire people - people hire people. All the best technology in the world does not replace us actually speaking with other people, one-on-one, to get information we need to hire the best to drive performance and growth.

Issues I see:

A) The overwhelming majority of professionals don&#039;t have profiles, don&#039;t want them and don&#039;t have the time or inclination to put them &quot;out there&quot;.
B) Resumes and on-line profiles are still &quot;fabricated&quot; by the individual and are not always factual.
C) The &quot;best&quot; potential candidates don&#039;t have a resume or profile out there but must be sought out and enticed.
D) An outstanding resume or profile does not always equal a good employee.

So the resume, or any other form of information about a candidate, will never go away as we all need some type of information in order to make any decisions.  Computers can parse it, break it into tiny pieces, use artificial intelligence to sort it, group it or compile it but it can&#039;t make hiring decisions.  

New technology, whatever it is, I hope will not ever replace human interaction in the hiring process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No matter what you call it; resume, profile, Q/A forms or whatever there will alwyas be a need for INFORMATION about potential candidates.  So the true question is how to deal with the information, not what format it comes to you, and what you DO with it once you have it in your hands.  Computers don&#8217;t hire people &#8211; people hire people. All the best technology in the world does not replace us actually speaking with other people, one-on-one, to get information we need to hire the best to drive performance and growth.</p>
<p>Issues I see:</p>
<p>A) The overwhelming majority of professionals don&#8217;t have profiles, don&#8217;t want them and don&#8217;t have the time or inclination to put them &#8220;out there&#8221;.<br />
B) Resumes and on-line profiles are still &#8220;fabricated&#8221; by the individual and are not always factual.<br />
C) The &#8220;best&#8221; potential candidates don&#8217;t have a resume or profile out there but must be sought out and enticed.<br />
D) An outstanding resume or profile does not always equal a good employee.</p>
<p>So the resume, or any other form of information about a candidate, will never go away as we all need some type of information in order to make any decisions.  Computers can parse it, break it into tiny pieces, use artificial intelligence to sort it, group it or compile it but it can&#8217;t make hiring decisions.  </p>
<p>New technology, whatever it is, I hope will not ever replace human interaction in the hiring process.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Gorelik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis Gorelik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 14:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The main purpose of resume is NOT to give comprehensive information about candidate. The purpose of resume is to make a quick and approximate decision about match with job opening.
From that perspective resume is a very convenient tool: it&#039;s quick to publish (cut &amp; paste), quick to send to recruiters (cut &amp; paste again), resume is very search-friendly (full of keywords) and provides a very good starting point for further research of how suitable candidate is for the job.
I believe resumes are here to stay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The main purpose of resume is NOT to give comprehensive information about candidate. The purpose of resume is to make a quick and approximate decision about match with job opening.<br />
From that perspective resume is a very convenient tool: it&#8217;s quick to publish (cut &amp; paste), quick to send to recruiters (cut &amp; paste again), resume is very search-friendly (full of keywords) and provides a very good starting point for further research of how suitable candidate is for the job.<br />
I believe resumes are here to stay.</p>
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		<title>By: Talent in China &#187; Resumes Vs Profiles</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2010/05/26/profiles-the-new-resume/comment-page-1/#comment-24885</link>
		<dc:creator>Talent in China &#187; Resumes Vs Profiles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 00:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Charles Handler has an excellent piece in ERE on the emergence of the profile as a replacement for the Resume. Definitely food for [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Katie DelGuercio</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2010/05/26/profiles-the-new-resume/comment-page-1/#comment-24874</link>
		<dc:creator>Katie DelGuercio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 21:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic article Charles, and thanks for the KODA shout-out! It was really fun to brainstorm with you about new ways for information to flow between candidates and employers. What I&#039;m most interested in is: how can online profiles help people to &quot;show,&quot; and not &quot;tell,&quot; employers about their unique value, without the content getting too anecdote-heavy, long, and cumbersome to sift through...? I&#039;m interested in developing a model that strikes this balance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic article Charles, and thanks for the KODA shout-out! It was really fun to brainstorm with you about new ways for information to flow between candidates and employers. What I&#8217;m most interested in is: how can online profiles help people to &#8220;show,&#8221; and not &#8220;tell,&#8221; employers about their unique value, without the content getting too anecdote-heavy, long, and cumbersome to sift through&#8230;? I&#8217;m interested in developing a model that strikes this balance.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Baldwin</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2010/05/26/profiles-the-new-resume/comment-page-1/#comment-24873</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan Baldwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 21:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah but see here&#039;s the draw for Unvarnished (and it&#039;s the same for Facebook)--there&#039;s a strong curiosity driving people there.  They want to know what people are up to (Facebook), or what people think about them (Unvarnished) or what they&#039;re up to (Facebook).  It&#039;s social outside of the job seeking experience.  Something like Jobfox or similar employee-employer matching service is specifically for the job seeker and without achieving critical mass (as Charles points out), it will never be THE place for a true 2.0 resume.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah but see here&#8217;s the draw for Unvarnished (and it&#8217;s the same for Facebook)&#8211;there&#8217;s a strong curiosity driving people there.  They want to know what people are up to (Facebook), or what people think about them (Unvarnished) or what they&#8217;re up to (Facebook).  It&#8217;s social outside of the job seeking experience.  Something like Jobfox or similar employee-employer matching service is specifically for the job seeker and without achieving critical mass (as Charles points out), it will never be THE place for a true 2.0 resume.</p>
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		<title>By: K.C. Donovan</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2010/05/26/profiles-the-new-resume/comment-page-1/#comment-24868</link>
		<dc:creator>K.C. Donovan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 21:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charles - you have struck a chord - one that my guess the majority of people reading will absolutely agree with (no offense Robert).  I too for years have railed about the evils of the resume and plotted its demise (check it out: http://ht.ly/1QkLq).

There is little question that with almost a billion people with profile data on the ten biggest social web platforms, that if a recruiter is using a resume to decide whether to bring someone in – they’re doing themselves and their company a disservice (should I say laziness?).  The amount of information that is available in the Social Web for the far majority of candidates is breathtaking.  

I have no question whatsoever that the resume will go the way of the TV antenna, VCR or the Sunday Newspaper Help Wanted section - its happening already...  Anyone lamenting the accuracy or legitimacy of any online data is not using it for the better.  As a test, try using Linked In, Facebook or Clean Journey profiles as a guide to attract your interest in a candidate (seem familiar to you &quot;stuck on resume&quot; folks).  Then merely Google the people you&#039;re interested in and read their blog or Twitter postings, review a portfolio, read a forum response from their Assn., discover actual club activities, watch a video they made, read an answer to an ERE posting - or whatever...all of which provide a dynamic, well rounded, snap shot of each - something no resume was ever designed to be able to provide...(how could it - it was invented almost 100 years ago with virtually no changes since!!!)

To Geoff and Bryan&#039;s point, if you can find a service where there is Interactive candidate and company data with functional assessments, twitter feeds, digital conversations between employers and passive job seekers that gets shared back and forth - NOW THAT would be game changing...(Unvarnished may be cool - but they are leaving the employer out of the game).  

What we all need I think is a service that promotes all of this in the form of a company dedicated Talent Community that links interested people with those at the company to each tell their stories...and vice versa!

I happen to know of just such a place… (Google my name to find out -:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles &#8211; you have struck a chord &#8211; one that my guess the majority of people reading will absolutely agree with (no offense Robert).  I too for years have railed about the evils of the resume and plotted its demise (check it out: <a href="http://ht.ly/1QkLq" rel="nofollow">http://ht.ly/1QkLq</a>).</p>
<p>There is little question that with almost a billion people with profile data on the ten biggest social web platforms, that if a recruiter is using a resume to decide whether to bring someone in – they’re doing themselves and their company a disservice (should I say laziness?).  The amount of information that is available in the Social Web for the far majority of candidates is breathtaking.  </p>
<p>I have no question whatsoever that the resume will go the way of the TV antenna, VCR or the Sunday Newspaper Help Wanted section &#8211; its happening already&#8230;  Anyone lamenting the accuracy or legitimacy of any online data is not using it for the better.  As a test, try using Linked In, Facebook or Clean Journey profiles as a guide to attract your interest in a candidate (seem familiar to you &#8220;stuck on resume&#8221; folks).  Then merely Google the people you&#8217;re interested in and read their blog or Twitter postings, review a portfolio, read a forum response from their Assn., discover actual club activities, watch a video they made, read an answer to an ERE posting &#8211; or whatever&#8230;all of which provide a dynamic, well rounded, snap shot of each &#8211; something no resume was ever designed to be able to provide&#8230;(how could it &#8211; it was invented almost 100 years ago with virtually no changes since!!!)</p>
<p>To Geoff and Bryan&#8217;s point, if you can find a service where there is Interactive candidate and company data with functional assessments, twitter feeds, digital conversations between employers and passive job seekers that gets shared back and forth &#8211; NOW THAT would be game changing&#8230;(Unvarnished may be cool &#8211; but they are leaving the employer out of the game).  </p>
<p>What we all need I think is a service that promotes all of this in the form of a company dedicated Talent Community that links interested people with those at the company to each tell their stories&#8230;and vice versa!</p>
<p>I happen to know of just such a place… (Google my name to find out -:)</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Ruff</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2010/05/26/profiles-the-new-resume/comment-page-1/#comment-24855</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Ruff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 19:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, to clarify, by revenues CareerBuilder is the largest in the US, and Monster is the largest internationally. So I am taking no position on which to rank #1 and which to rank #2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, to clarify, by revenues CareerBuilder is the largest in the US, and Monster is the largest internationally. So I am taking no position on which to rank #1 and which to rank #2.</p>
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		<title>By: charles handler</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2010/05/26/profiles-the-new-resume/comment-page-1/#comment-24853</link>
		<dc:creator>charles handler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 18:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great comments all.  Thanks for the dialogue.  I definitely meant my article to stimulate discussion and thought about the resume and its role vs. that of the profile.  I agree that profiles can be falsified too and that in their present form, they may not be THE answer.  I think that the crux of the issue is that THE answer has been hard to come by and that is why there has not been a replacement yet.  What I do feel to be true is that technology will continue to evolve to a point where we really do leave the resume as we know it now behind in exchange for some new methods that will do a better job of accomplishing the mission of quickly evaluating applicants vs. requirements.

I cant wait to see what the future holds and I believe that profiles, in one format or another, will definitely be a huge part of the solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great comments all.  Thanks for the dialogue.  I definitely meant my article to stimulate discussion and thought about the resume and its role vs. that of the profile.  I agree that profiles can be falsified too and that in their present form, they may not be THE answer.  I think that the crux of the issue is that THE answer has been hard to come by and that is why there has not been a replacement yet.  What I do feel to be true is that technology will continue to evolve to a point where we really do leave the resume as we know it now behind in exchange for some new methods that will do a better job of accomplishing the mission of quickly evaluating applicants vs. requirements.</p>
<p>I cant wait to see what the future holds and I believe that profiles, in one format or another, will definitely be a huge part of the solution.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Ruff</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2010/05/26/profiles-the-new-resume/comment-page-1/#comment-24846</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Ruff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 17:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The resume is dead, long live the resume.

Your article is well done and thought provoking. I have some thoughts:

a) The problem with inaccurate or simply fabricated information exists independent of the format, since the source of the error is the candidate and not the document or where the data lives or how it is viewed. 

b) Saying that online profiles have community-validating features is probably a rose-colored glasses view. People choose their friends and choose what feedback to display. I HEAVILY discount LinkedIn recommendations.

c) Overall, I think you confuse the location of the resume with the resume. There will ALWAYS be a need for a career and talent synopsis. It may live in an online profile, or in a separate resume, which may be auto-created from the online profile. Paper resumes are dead, but is is difficult to understand how an online profile is handier than a Word resume.

d) Scraping data from profiles still involves parsing, so online profiles do not solve that.

e) To say that an interactive question/answer format to get profile/CV data is more accurate is simply not true in my experience. What such systems actually do is to provide a way for candidates to grossly exaggerate their skills and experience levels in ways that are less detectable than by reading their resume. For instance, in an interactive process, a candidate may say that they have 5 years of skill XYZ and are expert level in it. Without the context of the resume, where we can see and follow skills in context, it is impossible to make any estimate of the validity of such statements.

This self-over-reporting syndrome is not a trivial problem. As users of DICE, we are continually frustrated by running searches for C#.NET gurus and finding that the overwhelming majority of &quot;matches&quot; are actually not C#.NET programmers but Java and PHP people who have simply reported (apparently falsely from what we can read in the resume) that they are experts in C#, when in fact they report no paid experience with such in their actual resume.

f) To say that parsing and semantic matching have little uptake is an overstatement when you look at the fact that Monster and CareerBuilder are using both technologies very successfully. There must be a reason they are by far #1 and #2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The resume is dead, long live the resume.</p>
<p>Your article is well done and thought provoking. I have some thoughts:</p>
<p>a) The problem with inaccurate or simply fabricated information exists independent of the format, since the source of the error is the candidate and not the document or where the data lives or how it is viewed. </p>
<p>b) Saying that online profiles have community-validating features is probably a rose-colored glasses view. People choose their friends and choose what feedback to display. I HEAVILY discount LinkedIn recommendations.</p>
<p>c) Overall, I think you confuse the location of the resume with the resume. There will ALWAYS be a need for a career and talent synopsis. It may live in an online profile, or in a separate resume, which may be auto-created from the online profile. Paper resumes are dead, but is is difficult to understand how an online profile is handier than a Word resume.</p>
<p>d) Scraping data from profiles still involves parsing, so online profiles do not solve that.</p>
<p>e) To say that an interactive question/answer format to get profile/CV data is more accurate is simply not true in my experience. What such systems actually do is to provide a way for candidates to grossly exaggerate their skills and experience levels in ways that are less detectable than by reading their resume. For instance, in an interactive process, a candidate may say that they have 5 years of skill XYZ and are expert level in it. Without the context of the resume, where we can see and follow skills in context, it is impossible to make any estimate of the validity of such statements.</p>
<p>This self-over-reporting syndrome is not a trivial problem. As users of DICE, we are continually frustrated by running searches for C#.NET gurus and finding that the overwhelming majority of &#8220;matches&#8221; are actually not C#.NET programmers but Java and PHP people who have simply reported (apparently falsely from what we can read in the resume) that they are experts in C#, when in fact they report no paid experience with such in their actual resume.</p>
<p>f) To say that parsing and semantic matching have little uptake is an overstatement when you look at the fact that Monster and CareerBuilder are using both technologies very successfully. There must be a reason they are by far #1 and #2.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul DeBettignies</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2010/05/26/profiles-the-new-resume/comment-page-1/#comment-24838</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul DeBettignies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 15:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am with you, I despise resumes but here is why I think they are a necessary evil and online profiles have the same if not more issues than resumes:

-Yes, everyone who reads this article likely has a LinkedIn profile. That does not mean that everyone in our industry does or will. Or has one that is presentable

-What about those who have little or no access to the Internet? Are they at a competitive disadvantage?

-People can lie on profiles as much as they do with resumes

-What happens if LinkedIn or Facebook are taken over by people who do evil things? What happens if they go out of business? Or there is a next big thing we flock to?

-Not everyone wants to be online

-Not everyone wants their work information for the world to see

-What about those doing secret job searches?

-Will the Recruiter/HR world be able to adapt? Surely it struggles with a somewhat standard document, what about a non standard format?

I strongly support an alternative to the current system but until I see one that is fair to all and can be handled on the company side of things I am stuck supporting the status quo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am with you, I despise resumes but here is why I think they are a necessary evil and online profiles have the same if not more issues than resumes:</p>
<p>-Yes, everyone who reads this article likely has a LinkedIn profile. That does not mean that everyone in our industry does or will. Or has one that is presentable</p>
<p>-What about those who have little or no access to the Internet? Are they at a competitive disadvantage?</p>
<p>-People can lie on profiles as much as they do with resumes</p>
<p>-What happens if LinkedIn or Facebook are taken over by people who do evil things? What happens if they go out of business? Or there is a next big thing we flock to?</p>
<p>-Not everyone wants to be online</p>
<p>-Not everyone wants their work information for the world to see</p>
<p>-What about those doing secret job searches?</p>
<p>-Will the Recruiter/HR world be able to adapt? Surely it struggles with a somewhat standard document, what about a non standard format?</p>
<p>I strongly support an alternative to the current system but until I see one that is fair to all and can be handled on the company side of things I am stuck supporting the status quo.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Bialk</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2010/05/26/profiles-the-new-resume/comment-page-1/#comment-24835</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Bialk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 15:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well written article. A couple of points to make is that most resumes have email and phone numbers. Corporate America is peeling off email contacts and leveraging recruitment marketing to promote their job listings. Broadbean, TMP, JWT and FirstAdvantage all offer these services via their job posting tools. 

With LinkedIn you do not get email addresses for free unless you pay LinkedIn. With tens of millions of resumes in Craigslist, Google resume groups and thousands of other sites it is a resume tsunamai.

I agree with many of your points but it will take a while to ween Europe and America away from resume (CV). The trend you will see is using top of the funnel (profile &amp; resume)matches that automatically drive them to an assessment. Now recruiters will be able to spend time on the &quot;best of the best&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well written article. A couple of points to make is that most resumes have email and phone numbers. Corporate America is peeling off email contacts and leveraging recruitment marketing to promote their job listings. Broadbean, TMP, JWT and FirstAdvantage all offer these services via their job posting tools. </p>
<p>With LinkedIn you do not get email addresses for free unless you pay LinkedIn. With tens of millions of resumes in Craigslist, Google resume groups and thousands of other sites it is a resume tsunamai.</p>
<p>I agree with many of your points but it will take a while to ween Europe and America away from resume (CV). The trend you will see is using top of the funnel (profile &amp; resume)matches that automatically drive them to an assessment. Now recruiters will be able to spend time on the &#8220;best of the best&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Baldwin</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2010/05/26/profiles-the-new-resume/comment-page-1/#comment-24830</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan Baldwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 13:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with ya on this.  If someone can develop a useful (to employers and candidates), simple, fairly standardized 2.0 resume site it could change the game.

Unfortunately Unvarnished may be the closest we come in the near future.  But the lack of control over comments limits its usefulness.

FYI, Koda website is http://koda.us</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with ya on this.  If someone can develop a useful (to employers and candidates), simple, fairly standardized 2.0 resume site it could change the game.</p>
<p>Unfortunately Unvarnished may be the closest we come in the near future.  But the lack of control over comments limits its usefulness.</p>
<p>FYI, Koda website is <a href="http://koda.us" rel="nofollow">http://koda.us</a></p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Votta</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2010/05/26/profiles-the-new-resume/comment-page-1/#comment-24828</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff Votta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 12:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said!

I agree that there is a need for some sort of standardized assessment tool, or a series of them specific to industry or skill sets.  If employers had the ability to see what a potential employee can DO rather than what that person has DONE (i.e the resume) then we would be moving forward. 

What services are there for job seekers, active or passive, to build that assessment data into their online profile?  What tools are available for employers to view the assessment data of a wide range of potential employees in their target space and where they can sort for the top 5%-10%?  

That would be a service desirable for both employers and employees... completing the online profile not just &quot;virtualizing&quot; the resume. 

Geoff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said!</p>
<p>I agree that there is a need for some sort of standardized assessment tool, or a series of them specific to industry or skill sets.  If employers had the ability to see what a potential employee can DO rather than what that person has DONE (i.e the resume) then we would be moving forward. </p>
<p>What services are there for job seekers, active or passive, to build that assessment data into their online profile?  What tools are available for employers to view the assessment data of a wide range of potential employees in their target space and where they can sort for the top 5%-10%?  </p>
<p>That would be a service desirable for both employers and employees&#8230; completing the online profile not just &#8220;virtualizing&#8221; the resume. </p>
<p>Geoff</p>
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