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		<title>By: TotalReward.RU &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Как HR привел Корпорацию «Тойота» к краху</title>
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		<dc:creator>TotalReward.RU &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Как HR привел Корпорацию «Тойота» к краху</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 05:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Оригинал статьи: A Think Piece: How HR Caused Toyota to Crash [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bill Fitzgerald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Fitzgerald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 02:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HR isn&#039;t a noun, it&#039;s a verb. A verb that&#039;s owned by Leadership not by some staff function.  Bill and Dave had it right - Managers are responsible for people, not HR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HR isn&#8217;t a noun, it&#8217;s a verb. A verb that&#8217;s owned by Leadership not by some staff function.  Bill and Dave had it right &#8211; Managers are responsible for people, not HR.</p>
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		<title>By: Blaming HR for Toyota’s Woes (and Everyone Else’s) &#124; HRM Today</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Компанию Toyota погубили HR-щики [Чужие мнения] &#124; kraynov.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 10:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] сегодня забавную статью, в которой утверждается, что проблемы Toyota, которая уже [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Freshers Yaar! &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Employment News for the Week of February 19</title>
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		<description>[...] Toyota’s HR department to blame for the company&#8217;s [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Only Bangalore Jobs &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Employment News for the Week of February 19</title>
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		<description>[...] Toyota’s HR department to blame for the company&#8217;s [...]</description>
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		<title>By: SmartBlog on Workforce &#187; This week&#8217;s most clicked</title>
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		<description>[...] How HR failed to put the brakes on Toyota&#8217;s faulty cars [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Employment News for the Week of February 19 &#124; The Hiring Site</title>
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		<title>By: HRwisdom &#187; Blog Archive &#187; HR Processes That Helped Lose 30 Billion Dollars</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 10:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] his excellent analysis, John Sullivan lists the eight bad staff management practices that contributed to Toyota’s massive [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Martin Snyder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Snyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 14:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting that the matter of culture becomes paramount; Toyota&#039;s CEO announced today that they are hiring more QA people....even though its probable that an army of QA people would not have detected a fault they were not looking for.....

And say what you will about Japanese culture, a very similar situation developed in that most American of cultures at NASA. 

I suggest to all that one of the best business books you will read is the Columbia Accident Investigation Board&#039;s summary volume- it has it all: suspense, high-tech education, amazing detective work, heroes and villians.....and the parallels with this Toyota situation are direct.  

http://caib.nasa.gov/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that the matter of culture becomes paramount; Toyota&#8217;s CEO announced today that they are hiring more QA people&#8230;.even though its probable that an army of QA people would not have detected a fault they were not looking for&#8230;..</p>
<p>And say what you will about Japanese culture, a very similar situation developed in that most American of cultures at NASA. </p>
<p>I suggest to all that one of the best business books you will read is the Columbia Accident Investigation Board&#8217;s summary volume- it has it all: suspense, high-tech education, amazing detective work, heroes and villians&#8230;..and the parallels with this Toyota situation are direct.  </p>
<p><a href="http://caib.nasa.gov/" rel="nofollow">http://caib.nasa.gov/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Letourneau</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua Letourneau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 14:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chalapathi, you are correct that the issue is the culture, but this is easy for us to point out when looking through our own frame of reference.

Having lived in Japan (and Okinawa), I can tell you that the Japanese society is quite heritage-driven and, for the lack of a better term, hierarchical.  Respect for Elders is paramount, and normally, you would report to someone elder to you that is your boss.  Questioning your Elders (and authority, for that matter) is frowned upon in Japanese culture.  That&#039;s not saying it&#039;s a closed society by any means - its&#039; not China . . . but it&#039;s not as open as the United States, either.

The larger issue, to me, is that globalization has led markets to be more and more disparately fragmented; highly decentralized, if you will.  Serving them means thinking and establishing yourself in a decentralized manner, not a centralized one (command-and-control hierarchy).  Not only do most Boards of Directors not reflect their customer bases (a bunch of 50-yr old+ white guys rarely reflect most target markets), most organizational structures don’t reflect the decentralized traits of their customer segments, either.  You can’t see the entire spectrum of color when looking through rose-colored glasses.

When your organizational structure begins to seriously lag your fragmenting consumer/customer base, it’s only a matter of time before the Cobra bites you.  Better put, when the rate of external change exceeds the rate of internal change, your days of operating on cruise control are numbered.

P.S. Six-Sigma is part of the problem.  Not only did those (6) 9s’ reliability let us consumers down (how many deaths reported at this point?), but Six-Sigma, TQM, Process Improvement, etc. completely ignore the social component of organizations . . . both internally (i.e. informal networks that drive how work ‘really’ gets done) and externally (i.e. consumer markets and their differing behaviors, such as North America versus East Asia versus West Africa, etc.)

P.S.S. I say again – HR can’t change its organizations until it changes itself.  “You must be the change you want to see in the World.” - Ghandi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chalapathi, you are correct that the issue is the culture, but this is easy for us to point out when looking through our own frame of reference.</p>
<p>Having lived in Japan (and Okinawa), I can tell you that the Japanese society is quite heritage-driven and, for the lack of a better term, hierarchical.  Respect for Elders is paramount, and normally, you would report to someone elder to you that is your boss.  Questioning your Elders (and authority, for that matter) is frowned upon in Japanese culture.  That&#8217;s not saying it&#8217;s a closed society by any means &#8211; its&#8217; not China . . . but it&#8217;s not as open as the United States, either.</p>
<p>The larger issue, to me, is that globalization has led markets to be more and more disparately fragmented; highly decentralized, if you will.  Serving them means thinking and establishing yourself in a decentralized manner, not a centralized one (command-and-control hierarchy).  Not only do most Boards of Directors not reflect their customer bases (a bunch of 50-yr old+ white guys rarely reflect most target markets), most organizational structures don’t reflect the decentralized traits of their customer segments, either.  You can’t see the entire spectrum of color when looking through rose-colored glasses.</p>
<p>When your organizational structure begins to seriously lag your fragmenting consumer/customer base, it’s only a matter of time before the Cobra bites you.  Better put, when the rate of external change exceeds the rate of internal change, your days of operating on cruise control are numbered.</p>
<p>P.S. Six-Sigma is part of the problem.  Not only did those (6) 9s’ reliability let us consumers down (how many deaths reported at this point?), but Six-Sigma, TQM, Process Improvement, etc. completely ignore the social component of organizations . . . both internally (i.e. informal networks that drive how work ‘really’ gets done) and externally (i.e. consumer markets and their differing behaviors, such as North America versus East Asia versus West Africa, etc.)</p>
<p>P.S.S. I say again – HR can’t change its organizations until it changes itself.  “You must be the change you want to see in the World.” &#8211; Ghandi</p>
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		<title>By: chalapathi RS</title>
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		<dc:creator>chalapathi RS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last week I posted on my blog regarding this problem and mentioned the reason is the change in the culture.

http://learn6sigma.ning.com/profiles/blogs/understanding-toyotas-biggest</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last week I posted on my blog regarding this problem and mentioned the reason is the change in the culture.</p>
<p><a href="http://learn6sigma.ning.com/profiles/blogs/understanding-toyotas-biggest" rel="nofollow">http://learn6sigma.ning.com/profiles/blogs/understanding-toyotas-biggest</a></p>
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		<title>By: Oscar Hernandes</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2010/02/15/a-think-piece-how-hr-caused-toyota-to-crash/comment-page-1/#comment-19607</link>
		<dc:creator>Oscar Hernandes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 08:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HR can very much have a hand for the reason of a company’s decline as people are its core and most valuable asset.  Toyota, and this goes for all the companies with HR problems, needs to adopt improved recruitment and hiring methods. In fact, supporting Saleem&#039;s point, there are pre-employment testing companies that have made the life easier for the recruiters in selecting the right talent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HR can very much have a hand for the reason of a company’s decline as people are its core and most valuable asset.  Toyota, and this goes for all the companies with HR problems, needs to adopt improved recruitment and hiring methods. In fact, supporting Saleem&#8217;s point, there are pre-employment testing companies that have made the life easier for the recruiters in selecting the right talent.</p>
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		<title>By: Saleem Qureshi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saleem Qureshi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 05:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@John: There is a great deal of quality information in this article. It&#039;s really astonishing to see that HR was accountable behind the Toyota&#039;s crisis. The proactive strategy for acquisition and retention of a talent is highly crucial, to save the company form emerging bottlenecks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@John: There is a great deal of quality information in this article. It&#8217;s really astonishing to see that HR was accountable behind the Toyota&#8217;s crisis. The proactive strategy for acquisition and retention of a talent is highly crucial, to save the company form emerging bottlenecks.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Brubaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Brubaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 05:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Culture, specifically the Japanese culture, was likely a major cause of this fiasco.  And it is important to note that HR can work to set a culture but the company culture is ultimately set by none other than the CEO --- and in the best case, by the full Executive Team.  In the Japanese culture that I have observed, without regard to what HR leaders might have suggested, the CEO would have made the decision to keep information quiet.  That is why some Japanese companies are failing....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Culture, specifically the Japanese culture, was likely a major cause of this fiasco.  And it is important to note that HR can work to set a culture but the company culture is ultimately set by none other than the CEO &#8212; and in the best case, by the full Executive Team.  In the Japanese culture that I have observed, without regard to what HR leaders might have suggested, the CEO would have made the decision to keep information quiet.  That is why some Japanese companies are failing&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Snyder</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2010/02/15/a-think-piece-how-hr-caused-toyota-to-crash/comment-page-1/#comment-19597</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Snyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like I said, for many organizations, HR should just go away.  

Operations should do recruiting and onboarding, there should be a compensation group, and the legal department should handle all compliance, including licensing and offboarding.   

Operations should also do training and development- it would probably be a healthy and cost effective evolution to connect operational decision makers to the actual recruitment, training, and development environments.  

In these days of pervasive outsourcing, lean manufacturing, resident suppliers, and the whole panopoly of the flat organization, why should HR have a seat at the table, when every seat at the table should have an HR component ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like I said, for many organizations, HR should just go away.  </p>
<p>Operations should do recruiting and onboarding, there should be a compensation group, and the legal department should handle all compliance, including licensing and offboarding.   </p>
<p>Operations should also do training and development- it would probably be a healthy and cost effective evolution to connect operational decision makers to the actual recruitment, training, and development environments.  </p>
<p>In these days of pervasive outsourcing, lean manufacturing, resident suppliers, and the whole panopoly of the flat organization, why should HR have a seat at the table, when every seat at the table should have an HR component ?</p>
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		<title>By: Carrie Corbin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carrie Corbin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course. As mine was, but I know I can come across kinda snarky sometimes if people don&#039;t know my sense of humor!

(Said while wearing my pearls, in my dress, and vaccuuming my floor waiting for Mr. Beaver to come home)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course. As mine was, but I know I can come across kinda snarky sometimes if people don&#8217;t know my sense of humor!</p>
<p>(Said while wearing my pearls, in my dress, and vaccuuming my floor waiting for Mr. Beaver to come home)</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Lempicke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd Lempicke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was in jest :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was in jest :)</p>
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		<title>By: Carrie Corbin</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2010/02/15/a-think-piece-how-hr-caused-toyota-to-crash/comment-page-1/#comment-19594</link>
		<dc:creator>Carrie Corbin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice one Todd... You know that&#039;s not what I was suggesting (or the opposite of), but it&#039;s a nice stretch. Made me laugh... :0)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice one Todd&#8230; You know that&#8217;s not what I was suggesting (or the opposite of), but it&#8217;s a nice stretch. Made me laugh&#8230; :0)</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Lempicke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd Lempicke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 15:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely, Carrie.  Then put your production, design and quality engineering staff in charge of benefits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely, Carrie.  Then put your production, design and quality engineering staff in charge of benefits.</p>
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