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	<title>Comments on: Who’s Responsible for Quality of Hire?</title>
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		<title>By: Three To See &#8211; w/c 26-Oct-09 &#171; TalentJunkie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Three To See &#8211; w/c 26-Oct-09 &#171; TalentJunkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Apr 2011 09:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: George Bradt</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Bradt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 10:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great discussion.  A lot of great points.  I&#039;d like to underline Lou&#039;s comment about the difference between process and results.  In our new book, &quot;Onboarding: How to Get Your New Employees Up to Speed in Half the Time&quot; we argue that hiring managers must must must take responsibility for the success of their new employees.  We further argue that they must get deeply involved in acquiring those employees.

It&#039;s often said that when something fails big, there&#039;s enough blame to go around.  When something succeeds, there&#039;s enough credit to go around as well.  The most effective hiring managers work closely with HR and with recruiting to do everything they can to make sure new employees are acquired, accommodated, assimilated and accelerated as well as possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great discussion.  A lot of great points.  I&#8217;d like to underline Lou&#8217;s comment about the difference between process and results.  In our new book, &#8220;Onboarding: How to Get Your New Employees Up to Speed in Half the Time&#8221; we argue that hiring managers must must must take responsibility for the success of their new employees.  We further argue that they must get deeply involved in acquiring those employees.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s often said that when something fails big, there&#8217;s enough blame to go around.  When something succeeds, there&#8217;s enough credit to go around as well.  The most effective hiring managers work closely with HR and with recruiting to do everything they can to make sure new employees are acquired, accommodated, assimilated and accelerated as well as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy Robin Gillman, MBA, SPHR</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy Robin Gillman, MBA, SPHR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 19:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did find a copy of your book on Amazon and agree that most job description do not really focus on needs.  There is no &quot;needs analysis&quot;.  It seems that when we hire a plumber or electrician, we know exactly what we need.  &quot;Come fix my leaking faucet.&quot;  &quot;Come fix my light switch.&quot;  When it comes to more abstract services, we come up with &quot;job descriptions.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did find a copy of your book on Amazon and agree that most job description do not really focus on needs.  There is no &#8220;needs analysis&#8221;.  It seems that when we hire a plumber or electrician, we know exactly what we need.  &#8220;Come fix my leaking faucet.&#8221;  &#8220;Come fix my light switch.&#8221;  When it comes to more abstract services, we come up with &#8220;job descriptions.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy Robin Gillman, MBA, SPHR</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2009/10/16/who%e2%80%99s-responsible-for-quality-of-hire/comment-page-1/#comment-16042</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy Robin Gillman, MBA, SPHR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 23:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lou, I really liked this article because it really made me think.  Here are some of my thoughts:

In your rationale bullet #1 regarding HR and QOH and strategy, I really think of Recruiting as being project oriented and having to stay within scope, meaning not only achieving QOH but doing it within the business scope.  This means a balancing act between quality, cost and time.  

Your #2 rationale also makes me ask, &quot;Shouldn&#039;t today&#039;s org chart, read CFO=CPO, especially if HR is going to be responsible for Human Capital?&quot;  So many organizations seem to have an HR gap at the upper ranks, creating imbalance. 

Your #1 recommendation to stop using job descriptions, makes me think of the many times poor job descriptions meant a position not being filled or high turnover because of a poor QOH.  Does that mean that we should ditch the almighty job description altogether? Perhaps it might be better to sit down with the hiring manager or workforce planning team and really listen to what they need and what the company needs strategically.  As for totally dispelling of them, that might be difficult.  Reinventing them might be better both legally (not just OFCCP but ADA) and for QOH and corporate wide compensation. I tried clicking on your link that you mention in your comment, Lou, but it wouldn&#039;t take me there. 

I&#039;m a big believer in your #2 recommendation and think recruiters should source on the positives,not the negatives.  Regretfully, with this recessionary economy and an over abundance of resumes, some have fallen into what I call &quot;lazy recruiting&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lou, I really liked this article because it really made me think.  Here are some of my thoughts:</p>
<p>In your rationale bullet #1 regarding HR and QOH and strategy, I really think of Recruiting as being project oriented and having to stay within scope, meaning not only achieving QOH but doing it within the business scope.  This means a balancing act between quality, cost and time.  </p>
<p>Your #2 rationale also makes me ask, &#8220;Shouldn&#8217;t today&#8217;s org chart, read CFO=CPO, especially if HR is going to be responsible for Human Capital?&#8221;  So many organizations seem to have an HR gap at the upper ranks, creating imbalance. </p>
<p>Your #1 recommendation to stop using job descriptions, makes me think of the many times poor job descriptions meant a position not being filled or high turnover because of a poor QOH.  Does that mean that we should ditch the almighty job description altogether? Perhaps it might be better to sit down with the hiring manager or workforce planning team and really listen to what they need and what the company needs strategically.  As for totally dispelling of them, that might be difficult.  Reinventing them might be better both legally (not just OFCCP but ADA) and for QOH and corporate wide compensation. I tried clicking on your link that you mention in your comment, Lou, but it wouldn&#8217;t take me there. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m a big believer in your #2 recommendation and think recruiters should source on the positives,not the negatives.  Regretfully, with this recessionary economy and an over abundance of resumes, some have fallen into what I call &#8220;lazy recruiting&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Joann Haynes</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2009/10/16/who%e2%80%99s-responsible-for-quality-of-hire/comment-page-1/#comment-16017</link>
		<dc:creator>Joann Haynes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 22:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Article..I believe that recruiting is a partnership between the Hiring Manager/HR.We should understand the needs of the business and therefore work towards achieving this. In the end we are looking for the same thing, top talent and a right fit within the organization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Article..I believe that recruiting is a partnership between the Hiring Manager/HR.We should understand the needs of the business and therefore work towards achieving this. In the end we are looking for the same thing, top talent and a right fit within the organization.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Halperin</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2009/10/16/who%e2%80%99s-responsible-for-quality-of-hire/comment-page-1/#comment-16016</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Halperin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 21:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Lou. I believe you brought to focus what I refer to as the differences between those of us who believe that Recruiting should be primarily goal-oriented and the process made as simple and straightforward as possible and others who are more process-oriented.

While an efficient process is vital to Recruiting, it has been my experience that those who typically design the process rarely solicit the input of those responsible for carrying it out (at least the lower levels) and also rarely are responsible for the more tedious aspects of the process they have required. Again in IMHO, if an organization wants an effective hiring process, it will involve everyone involved in it from the Scheduling Coordinator on up to have a hand in its fashioning. 

Good criteria for designing processes could be:
1) Do we need to perform this task, and if so, why?
2) If we do, how much per hour is it worth?
3) Is any given task the most valuable use of that task-performer’s time?
This is consistent with the goal of Eliminating, Automating, or Outsourcing as much low-level, low value-add  activity as possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Lou. I believe you brought to focus what I refer to as the differences between those of us who believe that Recruiting should be primarily goal-oriented and the process made as simple and straightforward as possible and others who are more process-oriented.</p>
<p>While an efficient process is vital to Recruiting, it has been my experience that those who typically design the process rarely solicit the input of those responsible for carrying it out (at least the lower levels) and also rarely are responsible for the more tedious aspects of the process they have required. Again in IMHO, if an organization wants an effective hiring process, it will involve everyone involved in it from the Scheduling Coordinator on up to have a hand in its fashioning. </p>
<p>Good criteria for designing processes could be:<br />
1) Do we need to perform this task, and if so, why?<br />
2) If we do, how much per hour is it worth?<br />
3) Is any given task the most valuable use of that task-performer’s time?<br />
This is consistent with the goal of Eliminating, Automating, or Outsourcing as much low-level, low value-add  activity as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Lou Adler</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2009/10/16/who%e2%80%99s-responsible-for-quality-of-hire/comment-page-1/#comment-16014</link>
		<dc:creator>Lou Adler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 20:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The primary point of this article is that just because HR/Recruiting isn&#039;t responsible for actual hire, or what happens to the person after the hire, it can still be responsible for quality of hire from a process standpoint. I don&#039;t want this point to get lost in the sea of these other great comments. Implementing a process that ensures the best person gets hired, is on-boarded properly and is managed properly is certainly the responsibility of HR/Recruiting. Metrics and a follow-up audit process need to be part of this QoH process responsibility, both to improve the process and to identify problems. 

Regarding Tom&#039;s point about eliminating job description, it&#039;s already being done, so don&#039;t reinvent the wheel. See Chapter 2 of Hire With Your Head (http://budurl.com/hwyhamazon). It&#039;s been validated for all hires and accepted by the top OFCCP lawyer as a means to eliminate bias and minimize legal exposure. 

We&#039;re now developing the model for converting QoH into financial impact to justify any new process on an ROI basis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The primary point of this article is that just because HR/Recruiting isn&#8217;t responsible for actual hire, or what happens to the person after the hire, it can still be responsible for quality of hire from a process standpoint. I don&#8217;t want this point to get lost in the sea of these other great comments. Implementing a process that ensures the best person gets hired, is on-boarded properly and is managed properly is certainly the responsibility of HR/Recruiting. Metrics and a follow-up audit process need to be part of this QoH process responsibility, both to improve the process and to identify problems. </p>
<p>Regarding Tom&#8217;s point about eliminating job description, it&#8217;s already being done, so don&#8217;t reinvent the wheel. See Chapter 2 of Hire With Your Head (<a href="http://budurl.com/hwyhamazon" rel="nofollow">http://budurl.com/hwyhamazon</a>). It&#8217;s been validated for all hires and accepted by the top OFCCP lawyer as a means to eliminate bias and minimize legal exposure. </p>
<p>We&#8217;re now developing the model for converting QoH into financial impact to justify any new process on an ROI basis.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Halperin</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2009/10/16/who%e2%80%99s-responsible-for-quality-of-hire/comment-page-1/#comment-16009</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Halperin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMHO, if the Hiring Manager can&#039;t hire quality, on time, within budget, THEY&#039;RE not a &quot;Quality Hire&quot;. We don&#039;t &quot;pull the trigger,&quot; so can&#039;t be held responsible for the results.
I&#039;d LOVE a scenario like this: Hiring Manager says, &quot;Staffing forced me to hire an idiot. It&#039;s not my fault!&quot;

Your thoughts....

-kh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMHO, if the Hiring Manager can&#8217;t hire quality, on time, within budget, THEY&#8217;RE not a &#8220;Quality Hire&#8221;. We don&#8217;t &#8220;pull the trigger,&#8221; so can&#8217;t be held responsible for the results.<br />
I&#8217;d LOVE a scenario like this: Hiring Manager says, &#8220;Staffing forced me to hire an idiot. It&#8217;s not my fault!&#8221;</p>
<p>Your thoughts&#8230;.</p>
<p>-kh</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Tom Janz</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2009/10/16/who%e2%80%99s-responsible-for-quality-of-hire/comment-page-1/#comment-16007</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Tom Janz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Lou,
I second all the votes for HR/Recruiting needing to be accountable and proactive in quantifying the business impact for Quality of Hire and the leverage that human assets have around accomplishing executive strategies. That is what Dan Hilbert did so well at Valero, and is offering now through his Orca software. 

I notice that you join in raining on the parade of Job Descriptions. You have good company-- Libby Sartain, Kevin Wheeler, John (Sullivan for sure and likely Sumser as well). I have accepted the task of leading a SHRM Work Group to define the ANSI standard for Job Descriptions. Am I nuts? I don&#039;t think so. Industry analysts and thought leaders such as yourself seem to love piling on to resumes and job descriptions--- yet they exist because they serve a not-yet-replaced function. Are they going to be replaced any time soon? Perhaps they can be made better. That is my hope at least. Why not require that job descriptions &quot;describe the work that needs to be done&quot;, along with observable key result measures? There are 50 people in the work group and I get one vote, so the outcome is far from clear. We are just starting. But the excitement for me is what job descriptions could become, much more than what they are. Reactions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Lou,<br />
I second all the votes for HR/Recruiting needing to be accountable and proactive in quantifying the business impact for Quality of Hire and the leverage that human assets have around accomplishing executive strategies. That is what Dan Hilbert did so well at Valero, and is offering now through his Orca software. </p>
<p>I notice that you join in raining on the parade of Job Descriptions. You have good company&#8211; Libby Sartain, Kevin Wheeler, John (Sullivan for sure and likely Sumser as well). I have accepted the task of leading a SHRM Work Group to define the ANSI standard for Job Descriptions. Am I nuts? I don&#8217;t think so. Industry analysts and thought leaders such as yourself seem to love piling on to resumes and job descriptions&#8212; yet they exist because they serve a not-yet-replaced function. Are they going to be replaced any time soon? Perhaps they can be made better. That is my hope at least. Why not require that job descriptions &#8220;describe the work that needs to be done&#8221;, along with observable key result measures? There are 50 people in the work group and I get one vote, so the outcome is far from clear. We are just starting. But the excitement for me is what job descriptions could become, much more than what they are. Reactions?</p>
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		<title>By: Heidi Burkley</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2009/10/16/who%e2%80%99s-responsible-for-quality-of-hire/comment-page-1/#comment-16000</link>
		<dc:creator>Heidi Burkley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a strong advocate in HR/Recruiting being involved in the Quality of Hires.  It puts accountability on the recruiting function and validates that they play an intrinsic role in the talent management process. It also solidifies the value the company places in their talent acquisition function as a strategic partner.  Ultimately, an organization that works together will involve every stake holder in this important decision making process.  

HR/Recruitment must be involved up to a certain point for example accountability for the first 90 days, on boarding process, training check points, follow-up and feedback on successes and or failures and evening partnering with new hire committees.   To tie it all together, it’s imperative to integrate metrics to measure you’re ROI. Great recruiters believe in strategic workforce staffing solutions that support their partners build winning teams.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a strong advocate in HR/Recruiting being involved in the Quality of Hires.  It puts accountability on the recruiting function and validates that they play an intrinsic role in the talent management process. It also solidifies the value the company places in their talent acquisition function as a strategic partner.  Ultimately, an organization that works together will involve every stake holder in this important decision making process.  </p>
<p>HR/Recruitment must be involved up to a certain point for example accountability for the first 90 days, on boarding process, training check points, follow-up and feedback on successes and or failures and evening partnering with new hire committees.   To tie it all together, it’s imperative to integrate metrics to measure you’re ROI. Great recruiters believe in strategic workforce staffing solutions that support their partners build winning teams.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne Wauters</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2009/10/16/who%e2%80%99s-responsible-for-quality-of-hire/comment-page-1/#comment-15997</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne Wauters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lou,
Good article! At the company I work for we use the Studer Pillars for our strategic frame work so HR is definitely responsible for quality of hire since our major responsibility in the strategic frame work is the people pillar. We have implemented a new on boarding process as a result of our strategic framework and reduced our orientation to 1 day. We have also implemented a 30-60-90 day follow up on new hires. What we have found is that if an employee terms within 90 days then it is most likely  a recruitment issue (job fit etc...);after ninety days based on exit interviews responsibility blurs. To help with this we are implementing a mentorship or buddy program but I have no data on that as of yet. While I believe early termination (up to 90 days) is recruitment’s responsibility, I also believe that afterwards quality of hire becomes more of a joint team effort between HR, the hiring manager, and the organization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lou,<br />
Good article! At the company I work for we use the Studer Pillars for our strategic frame work so HR is definitely responsible for quality of hire since our major responsibility in the strategic frame work is the people pillar. We have implemented a new on boarding process as a result of our strategic framework and reduced our orientation to 1 day. We have also implemented a 30-60-90 day follow up on new hires. What we have found is that if an employee terms within 90 days then it is most likely  a recruitment issue (job fit etc&#8230;);after ninety days based on exit interviews responsibility blurs. To help with this we are implementing a mentorship or buddy program but I have no data on that as of yet. While I believe early termination (up to 90 days) is recruitment’s responsibility, I also believe that afterwards quality of hire becomes more of a joint team effort between HR, the hiring manager, and the organization.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Beardsley</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2009/10/16/who%e2%80%99s-responsible-for-quality-of-hire/comment-page-1/#comment-15995</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Beardsley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really like this topic and wish I coudl see more critical thinking focused on the Quality of Hire issue.  I think you are spot on in that the time factor begins to change the conditions of the measurement.  I cannot understand anyone not wanting, or as you say &quot;demanding&quot; this responsibility, but the organization one is in partly dictates how much &quot;sphere of influence&quot; you have here. If you are in a large org, and recruiting is a seperate function than HR, you have even less line of sight into the new hire once the hire is made.  But, we are talking about quality of hire here, not quality of employee, right?

In any case, I beleive the quality of hire is a metric that measures the quality of the organizations cabability as a collective system and cannot be put on any one person&#039;s shoudlers - HMs or Recruiters.  In fact, I see a huge difference in the Quality of Hire behaviors in companies that the HM and Recruiting team share the metric result.  That is, the metric reflects on both, and they share the responsibility of working together, in a complex system, to create a common goal - a quality hire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like this topic and wish I coudl see more critical thinking focused on the Quality of Hire issue.  I think you are spot on in that the time factor begins to change the conditions of the measurement.  I cannot understand anyone not wanting, or as you say &#8220;demanding&#8221; this responsibility, but the organization one is in partly dictates how much &#8220;sphere of influence&#8221; you have here. If you are in a large org, and recruiting is a seperate function than HR, you have even less line of sight into the new hire once the hire is made.  But, we are talking about quality of hire here, not quality of employee, right?</p>
<p>In any case, I beleive the quality of hire is a metric that measures the quality of the organizations cabability as a collective system and cannot be put on any one person&#8217;s shoudlers &#8211; HMs or Recruiters.  In fact, I see a huge difference in the Quality of Hire behaviors in companies that the HM and Recruiting team share the metric result.  That is, the metric reflects on both, and they share the responsibility of working together, in a complex system, to create a common goal &#8211; a quality hire.</p>
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		<title>By: nicholas garbis</title>
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		<dc:creator>nicholas garbis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clarificaton: &#039;movement&#039; meaning promotion or transfer....as each of these represents another point at which the organization is (in most cases) providing another review of the employee and, in essence, and endorsement of the employee as someone worth keeping around.  Some exclusions would apply, such as demotions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clarificaton: &#8216;movement&#8217; meaning promotion or transfer&#8230;.as each of these represents another point at which the organization is (in most cases) providing another review of the employee and, in essence, and endorsement of the employee as someone worth keeping around.  Some exclusions would apply, such as demotions.</p>
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		<title>By: Claudia Faust</title>
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		<dc:creator>Claudia Faust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lou, excellent synopsis as usual.

From my perspective, it takes a village to raise a Quality Hire.  If you believe that the performance of the least influences the productivity of the whole (the &#039;weakest link&#039; theory), then everyone has a stake in the outcome.  Clearly some have more influence than others at various times: HR in terms of sourcing and process; hiring managers in selection and ongoing management; peers in terms of coaching and feedback, even the new hires themselves in the decision to engage and become/remain productive.

Seen in this way, it only seems natural to me that (as you suggest) HR should not only own the process but also the metrics; and to further your comparison with behaviors of the CFO, HR should also own the communication of progress and gap analysis.  Somebody has to drive that bus, and it is ludicrous to push the responsibility onto the shoulders of individual business units.

Nicholas, in your description of the QoH components I&#039;m curious to clarify what you mean by &quot;movement.&quot;  Are you referring to mobility (promotion) in the organization?  And over what period of time are you suggesting this be measured?

There are tools in the market to measure HM satisfaction and peer feedback about perceived quality of hire in the critical first year (we offer one at Improved Experience), and to raise awareness of everyone who participates in the selection process of which behaviors actually do influence a better outcome.  Isnt&#039; that, after all, the heart of this debate: whose behaviors must change to consistently raise the bar of talent excellence?  And wouldn&#039;t it be nice to get HR/Recruiting out of the finger-pointing game and into the role of Solution Provider?

Claudia Faust
CEO
Improved Experience</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lou, excellent synopsis as usual.</p>
<p>From my perspective, it takes a village to raise a Quality Hire.  If you believe that the performance of the least influences the productivity of the whole (the &#8216;weakest link&#8217; theory), then everyone has a stake in the outcome.  Clearly some have more influence than others at various times: HR in terms of sourcing and process; hiring managers in selection and ongoing management; peers in terms of coaching and feedback, even the new hires themselves in the decision to engage and become/remain productive.</p>
<p>Seen in this way, it only seems natural to me that (as you suggest) HR should not only own the process but also the metrics; and to further your comparison with behaviors of the CFO, HR should also own the communication of progress and gap analysis.  Somebody has to drive that bus, and it is ludicrous to push the responsibility onto the shoulders of individual business units.</p>
<p>Nicholas, in your description of the QoH components I&#8217;m curious to clarify what you mean by &#8220;movement.&#8221;  Are you referring to mobility (promotion) in the organization?  And over what period of time are you suggesting this be measured?</p>
<p>There are tools in the market to measure HM satisfaction and peer feedback about perceived quality of hire in the critical first year (we offer one at Improved Experience), and to raise awareness of everyone who participates in the selection process of which behaviors actually do influence a better outcome.  Isnt&#8217; that, after all, the heart of this debate: whose behaviors must change to consistently raise the bar of talent excellence?  And wouldn&#8217;t it be nice to get HR/Recruiting out of the finger-pointing game and into the role of Solution Provider?</p>
<p>Claudia Faust<br />
CEO<br />
Improved Experience</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Goldstein</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2009/10/16/who%e2%80%99s-responsible-for-quality-of-hire/comment-page-1/#comment-15992</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Goldstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Article Lou!  It doesn&#039;t matter who is directly responsible for the quality of hire.  What matters is for the HR/Recruiting professional to earn the Hiring Managers&#039; respect and to do that there must be quality candidates as well as a focus on retention.  The best recruiters recognize that if we retain our top talent on a consistant basis then respect is earned and the organization succeeds.  Top recruiters take responsibilty and hold themselves accountable for retaining the candidates they have sourced.  They work with the Hiring Managers to develop training and retention strategies that work.  I know I always did.

Thanks again for a great article!

Craig</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Article Lou!  It doesn&#8217;t matter who is directly responsible for the quality of hire.  What matters is for the HR/Recruiting professional to earn the Hiring Managers&#8217; respect and to do that there must be quality candidates as well as a focus on retention.  The best recruiters recognize that if we retain our top talent on a consistant basis then respect is earned and the organization succeeds.  Top recruiters take responsibilty and hold themselves accountable for retaining the candidates they have sourced.  They work with the Hiring Managers to develop training and retention strategies that work.  I know I always did.</p>
<p>Thanks again for a great article!</p>
<p>Craig</p>
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		<title>By: nicholas garbis</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2009/10/16/who%e2%80%99s-responsible-for-quality-of-hire/comment-page-1/#comment-15990</link>
		<dc:creator>nicholas garbis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article, Lou.  I am seeing good things lately in the measurement area related to quality of hire, as more companies are gathering and combining existing metrics and seeing where they have data gaps that will help them measure Q of H more effectively.  The components of a good Q of H index: retention, performance, movement, time to productivity, manager satisfaction (the first 3 of which are more readily available).  Looking at this by manager and by recruiter -- that&#039;s were the goods are. 

Nicholas Garbis, Sr. Consultant
Infohrm - global leader in workforce planning, reporting, and analytics
www.infohrm.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article, Lou.  I am seeing good things lately in the measurement area related to quality of hire, as more companies are gathering and combining existing metrics and seeing where they have data gaps that will help them measure Q of H more effectively.  The components of a good Q of H index: retention, performance, movement, time to productivity, manager satisfaction (the first 3 of which are more readily available).  Looking at this by manager and by recruiter &#8212; that&#8217;s were the goods are. </p>
<p>Nicholas Garbis, Sr. Consultant<br />
Infohrm &#8211; global leader in workforce planning, reporting, and analytics<br />
<a href="http://www.infohrm.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.infohrm.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alison Citti</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2009/10/16/who%e2%80%99s-responsible-for-quality-of-hire/comment-page-1/#comment-15989</link>
		<dc:creator>Alison Citti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lou,
I do agree with the majority of what you’re saying, that HR teams must be willing to take some serious accountability for the quality of talent they are bringing into the organization. However, the quality measurement ownership has to shift when the hiring manager takes over the management responsibility for the new hire. I have seen many instances where a recruitment team worked diligently to bring excellent talent into an organization, and the hires end up leaving because they have been mismanaged, treated poorly, feel disengaged, etc. Those circumstances can’t be tied back to the quality of hire-they are a factor of quality management or lack thereof.

-Alison Citti, Blogger, www.theseamlessworkforce.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lou,<br />
I do agree with the majority of what you’re saying, that HR teams must be willing to take some serious accountability for the quality of talent they are bringing into the organization. However, the quality measurement ownership has to shift when the hiring manager takes over the management responsibility for the new hire. I have seen many instances where a recruitment team worked diligently to bring excellent talent into an organization, and the hires end up leaving because they have been mismanaged, treated poorly, feel disengaged, etc. Those circumstances can’t be tied back to the quality of hire-they are a factor of quality management or lack thereof.</p>
<p>-Alison Citti, Blogger, <a href="http://www.theseamlessworkforce.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.theseamlessworkforce.com</a></p>
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