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		<title>By: BrandSocialism &#8211; Is Your Hiring Process Hurting Your Employer Brand?</title>
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		<dc:creator>BrandSocialism &#8211; Is Your Hiring Process Hurting Your Employer Brand?</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Is Your Hiring Process Hurting Your Employer Brand? &#171;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Is Your Hiring Process Hurting Your Employer Brand? &#171;</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Is Your Hiring Process Hurting Your Employer Brand? - ERE.net</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Joshua Letourneau</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2009/10/01/we-should-be-ashamed-treating-candidates-with-respect/comment-page-1/#comment-16274</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Letourneau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, typo in my post (as usual, apparently!)

&quot;None of us are perfect – as for myself, I can hear a candidate recount a recent experience and some of thing sting more than others.&quot;

I meant &quot;and some things sting more than others.&quot;

That&#039;s what I get for typing entirely too fast and editing on the fly :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, typo in my post (as usual, apparently!)</p>
<p>&#8220;None of us are perfect – as for myself, I can hear a candidate recount a recent experience and some of thing sting more than others.&#8221;</p>
<p>I meant &#8220;and some things sting more than others.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what I get for typing entirely too fast and editing on the fly :)</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Letourneau</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2009/10/01/we-should-be-ashamed-treating-candidates-with-respect/comment-page-1/#comment-16273</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Letourneau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keith, to your point, I personally believe that many recruiters often discount or overlook the psychological wrestling match it can be when dealt so many blows during a job search.  I say &#039;wrestling match&#039; in lieu of &#039;beatdown&#039;, although I lean toward the latter.  None of us are perfect - as for myself, I can hear a candidate recount a recent experience and some of thing sting more than others.  Yet, during the interview, many are looking for what amounts to &#039;scripted answers&#039; to our questions - either they mention our &#039;keywords&#039; during the phone screen . . . or they get a rejection email a week later, right?

I&#039;m not saying this from a &quot;pie in the sky&quot; perspective, meaning I understand that true 1-to-1 communications (ala the too oft-failed CRM promise) and true 1-to-1 recruiting relationships aren&#039;t always possible.  Recruiting organizations don&#039;t have the capacity or manpower to &quot;keep every customer 100% satisfied&quot; . . . and frankly, they shouldn&#039;t.  That&#039;s why the notion of true Six-Sigma customer satisfaction, not to mention quality, is not only impossible, but not economically feasible.  And Six-Sigma recruiting?  If anyone tells you they&#039;ve achieved this (or a vendor promises they can help you achieve this), your b.s. radar ought to be going off in a big way :P

Yet the responses I see in regards to this challenge are often tied to &#039;improving the process&#039;.  Sure, there may be room for process improvement (there almost always is, in fact), but how about an improvement in the operators of the process?  I can count multiple instances where companies have become slaves to their own process, thereby losing the ability to throw the entire process away and draw a better one up from scratch on a whiteboard.

For example, have you ever seen a job ad for a Recruiter that notes anything along the lines of a &quot;healthy passion to work with, consult, and guide people, both internal and external to our company?&quot;  Nope, we see other requirements like, &quot;must have experience in a high-volume hiring environment.&quot;  My question is, can&#039;t both exist?  Personally, I think so . . . but it comes down to hiring the right operators and owners of the process itself.

Ok, back to hitting the phones and speaking with people (no, not candidates or &#039;process inputs&#039; . . . &#039;people&#039; just works better for me!) :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith, to your point, I personally believe that many recruiters often discount or overlook the psychological wrestling match it can be when dealt so many blows during a job search.  I say &#8216;wrestling match&#8217; in lieu of &#8216;beatdown&#8217;, although I lean toward the latter.  None of us are perfect &#8211; as for myself, I can hear a candidate recount a recent experience and some of thing sting more than others.  Yet, during the interview, many are looking for what amounts to &#8216;scripted answers&#8217; to our questions &#8211; either they mention our &#8216;keywords&#8217; during the phone screen . . . or they get a rejection email a week later, right?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying this from a &#8220;pie in the sky&#8221; perspective, meaning I understand that true 1-to-1 communications (ala the too oft-failed CRM promise) and true 1-to-1 recruiting relationships aren&#8217;t always possible.  Recruiting organizations don&#8217;t have the capacity or manpower to &#8220;keep every customer 100% satisfied&#8221; . . . and frankly, they shouldn&#8217;t.  That&#8217;s why the notion of true Six-Sigma customer satisfaction, not to mention quality, is not only impossible, but not economically feasible.  And Six-Sigma recruiting?  If anyone tells you they&#8217;ve achieved this (or a vendor promises they can help you achieve this), your b.s. radar ought to be going off in a big way :P</p>
<p>Yet the responses I see in regards to this challenge are often tied to &#8216;improving the process&#8217;.  Sure, there may be room for process improvement (there almost always is, in fact), but how about an improvement in the operators of the process?  I can count multiple instances where companies have become slaves to their own process, thereby losing the ability to throw the entire process away and draw a better one up from scratch on a whiteboard.</p>
<p>For example, have you ever seen a job ad for a Recruiter that notes anything along the lines of a &#8220;healthy passion to work with, consult, and guide people, both internal and external to our company?&#8221;  Nope, we see other requirements like, &#8220;must have experience in a high-volume hiring environment.&#8221;  My question is, can&#8217;t both exist?  Personally, I think so . . . but it comes down to hiring the right operators and owners of the process itself.</p>
<p>Ok, back to hitting the phones and speaking with people (no, not candidates or &#8216;process inputs&#8217; . . . &#8216;people&#8217; just works better for me!) :)</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Halperin</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2009/10/01/we-should-be-ashamed-treating-candidates-with-respect/comment-page-1/#comment-16271</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Halperin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It appears we are not alone in our discontent....

&quot;Undercurrent of disrespect pervading the job seeking experience&quot;

A writer on the Monster Blog has been tracking her own six-month job search through various frustrations, including a recent interview that featured a put down followed by a question of when she could start. So the writer was astonished when:

The very next day, I received a call from the recruiter who told me the firm decided not to proceed with my candidacy because I didn&#039;t have the necessary marketing skills. What a rollercoaster ride that was, to say the least.

The experience that Jane Allerton wrote about for Monster seem all too common in this job market. If this has happened to you find what little comfort comes from not being alone.

Posted By: Tom Abate (Email) &#124; October 22 2009 at 08:30 AM

Listed Under: Jobs

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears we are not alone in our discontent&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8220;Undercurrent of disrespect pervading the job seeking experience&#8221;</p>
<p>A writer on the Monster Blog has been tracking her own six-month job search through various frustrations, including a recent interview that featured a put down followed by a question of when she could start. So the writer was astonished when:</p>
<p>The very next day, I received a call from the recruiter who told me the firm decided not to proceed with my candidacy because I didn&#8217;t have the necessary marketing skills. What a rollercoaster ride that was, to say the least.</p>
<p>The experience that Jane Allerton wrote about for Monster seem all too common in this job market. If this has happened to you find what little comfort comes from not being alone.</p>
<p>Posted By: Tom Abate (Email) | October 22 2009 at 08:30 AM</p>
<p>Listed Under: Jobs</p>
<p>Share	| Email</p>
<p>Read more: <a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/gettowork/detail?entry_id=49984&#038;o=2&#038;gta=commentslistpos#commentslistpos#ixzz0V4FkabQw" rel="nofollow">http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/gettowork/detail?entry_id=49984&#038;o=2&#038;gta=commentslistpos#commentslistpos#ixzz0V4FkabQw</a></p>
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		<title>By: Keith Halperin</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2009/10/01/we-should-be-ashamed-treating-candidates-with-respect/comment-page-1/#comment-16135</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Halperin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Heidi. A number of companies DO get it- I&#039;ve worked for some and interviewed with others. Many others either don&#039;t and say they don&#039;t or at least don&#039;t say they do, and many pretend to &quot;get it&quot; and don&#039;t really. These are the NASTY ones...

.................

Anyway:
Too busy? Burned out? Don&#039;t really care, but still want to make certain that all applicants have A WORLD-CLASS HIRING EXPERIENCE, just like YOU&#039;D want to have?
Now through the WONDERS OF TECHNOLOGY, you DON&#039;T have to keep in touch with your hordes of applicants because SOMEON.E ELSE CAN DO IT FOR YOU! (This was from me, not anybody else- kh)

(This [below] is what I found. I spoke to their sales rep a few minutes ago.-kh)

Go ahead - Try out our Virtual Solutions. We will do our very best to exceed your expectations. We make your business our business!

Live Receptionist Services (with folks from the USA- kh)
	 	 	 	 	 
Instant Online Set-Up &lt; No Long-Term Contracts &lt; No Equipment to Buy &lt; No Hassles &lt;	 	

Live
RECEPTIONIST
50	 	

Live
RECEPTIONIST
100	 	

Live
RECEPTIONIST
250	 	

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600	 	

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Calendar/Appointment Scheduling	 		 		 				 	
Order Processing &amp; Customer Service
	 		 		 		 
Live Outbound &amp; Sales Calling		 	

TollFree Or Local Phone/Fax NumbeR	 		 		 	

Voicemail &amp; Voicemail To Email 		 		 		 		 	
Electronic Fax &amp; Fax To Email 		 		 		 		 	
Email Address &amp; Secure Messaging
	 		 		 	 	
Web-Based Command Center With Online Calendar, Contacts, Tasks, Email
	 		 		 		 		 	
Live Answering Minutes
* live billing calculations
are based on 1 sec increments
 50 minutes (3,000 secs)		
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Your comments....

-kh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Heidi. A number of companies DO get it- I&#8217;ve worked for some and interviewed with others. Many others either don&#8217;t and say they don&#8217;t or at least don&#8217;t say they do, and many pretend to &#8220;get it&#8221; and don&#8217;t really. These are the NASTY ones&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>Anyway:<br />
Too busy? Burned out? Don&#8217;t really care, but still want to make certain that all applicants have A WORLD-CLASS HIRING EXPERIENCE, just like YOU&#8217;D want to have?<br />
Now through the WONDERS OF TECHNOLOGY, you DON&#8217;T have to keep in touch with your hordes of applicants because SOMEON.E ELSE CAN DO IT FOR YOU! (This was from me, not anybody else- kh)</p>
<p>(This [below] is what I found. I spoke to their sales rep a few minutes ago.-kh)</p>
<p>Go ahead &#8211; Try out our Virtual Solutions. We will do our very best to exceed your expectations. We make your business our business!</p>
<p>Live Receptionist Services (with folks from the USA- kh)</p>
<p>Instant Online Set-Up &lt; No Long-Term Contracts &lt; No Equipment to Buy &lt; No Hassles &lt;	 	</p>
<p>Live<br />
RECEPTIONIST<br />
50	 	</p>
<p>Live<br />
RECEPTIONIST<br />
100	 	</p>
<p>Live<br />
RECEPTIONIST<br />
250	 	</p>
<p>Live<br />
RECEPTIONIST<br />
600	 	</p>
<p>Auto<br />
ATTENDANT<br />
1000</p>
<p>Live Receptionist Answering Mo-Fri, 8am EST &#8211; 8pm EST</p>
<p>Live Call Screen, Transfer, Forwarding</p>
<p>Calendar/Appointment Scheduling<br />
Order Processing &amp; Customer Service</p>
<p>Live Outbound &amp; Sales Calling		 	</p>
<p>TollFree Or Local Phone/Fax NumbeR	 		 		 	</p>
<p>Voicemail &amp; Voicemail To Email<br />
Electronic Fax &amp; Fax To Email<br />
Email Address &amp; Secure Messaging</p>
<p>Web-Based Command Center With Online Calendar, Contacts, Tasks, Email</p>
<p>Live Answering Minutes<br />
* live billing calculations<br />
are based on 1 sec increments<br />
 50 minutes (3,000 secs)<br />
100 minutes (6,000 secs)<br />
250 minutes(15,000 secs)<br />
600 minutes(36,000 secs)		-</p>
<p>Long Distance Minutes<br />
250 minutes<br />
500 minutes		                                     1250 minutes		                                             3000 minutes<br />
1000 minutes</p>
<p>(WHOLESALE) PRICES<br />
$99/MO<br />
$149/MO<br />
$249/MO<br />
$499/MO<br />
$59/MO<br />
&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Your comments&#8230;.</p>
<p>-kh</p>
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		<title>By: Heidi Burkley</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2009/10/01/we-should-be-ashamed-treating-candidates-with-respect/comment-page-1/#comment-16130</link>
		<dc:creator>Heidi Burkley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keith:

I think there are great companies out there that &quot;get it&quot;;  in fact, I am inclined to believe that they are a head of curve. Perhaps the problem is these companies are few, far and in between or maybe not.  

We live in an instant society where everything is focused upon mass production and quick results.  There&#039;s a notion that the &quot;magical button&quot; will fix our problems.  All of a sudden we can bypass hard work, quality and great service to meet the needs of our customers by simply clicking &quot;buy now&quot;.  

The problem with this approach is that we&#039;ve lost touch with importance of listening, building relationships, customization, word of mouth and providing reliable service.  Somewhere we sacrificed quality for quantity and look at where it&#039;s gotten us...   Sadly, we are not willing to listen to the customer because we know best... 

Fortunately, one way or another the voice of the customer will be heard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith:</p>
<p>I think there are great companies out there that &#8220;get it&#8221;;  in fact, I am inclined to believe that they are a head of curve. Perhaps the problem is these companies are few, far and in between or maybe not.  </p>
<p>We live in an instant society where everything is focused upon mass production and quick results.  There&#8217;s a notion that the &#8220;magical button&#8221; will fix our problems.  All of a sudden we can bypass hard work, quality and great service to meet the needs of our customers by simply clicking &#8220;buy now&#8221;.  </p>
<p>The problem with this approach is that we&#8217;ve lost touch with importance of listening, building relationships, customization, word of mouth and providing reliable service.  Somewhere we sacrificed quality for quantity and look at where it&#8217;s gotten us&#8230;   Sadly, we are not willing to listen to the customer because we know best&#8230; </p>
<p>Fortunately, one way or another the voice of the customer will be heard.</p>
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		<title>By: J.P. Winker</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2009/10/01/we-should-be-ashamed-treating-candidates-with-respect/comment-page-1/#comment-16127</link>
		<dc:creator>J.P. Winker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the fact that the community continues to discuss this issue. It is important, and underscores John Sullivan&#039;s recent article positing that a company&#039;s brand has shifted out of it&#039;s control. In this instance, the way candidates are treated is very much in our control and it is a shame when they&#039;re not treated well. I know companies who have not been respectful to me, or to people I know, and I avoid them (and their products). I am also keenly aware of the challenges faced by overworked recruiters, especially when your systems are deficient. This is still important, and it begins at a personal level. Recruiters need to treat candidates as applicants, not supplicants. Empathy and respect need to be built into our behavior and systems, just as our organization does with it&#039;s &#039;regular&#039; customers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the fact that the community continues to discuss this issue. It is important, and underscores John Sullivan&#8217;s recent article positing that a company&#8217;s brand has shifted out of it&#8217;s control. In this instance, the way candidates are treated is very much in our control and it is a shame when they&#8217;re not treated well. I know companies who have not been respectful to me, or to people I know, and I avoid them (and their products). I am also keenly aware of the challenges faced by overworked recruiters, especially when your systems are deficient. This is still important, and it begins at a personal level. Recruiters need to treat candidates as applicants, not supplicants. Empathy and respect need to be built into our behavior and systems, just as our organization does with it&#8217;s &#8216;regular&#8217; customers.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Kevin Johnston</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2009/10/01/we-should-be-ashamed-treating-candidates-with-respect/comment-page-1/#comment-16126</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Kevin Johnston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Community-  Thanks for the comments, very interesting...

I recently sent an invite/s (with a thoughtful note/commenting on a recent post) to one of the big 4 social networking sites, to several SR LEVEL Staffing folks (From F100), and within an hour received an acceptance/s and note back..

I always remember the &quot;golden rule&quot; when I engage with people.. &quot;treat others as I want to be treated&quot;

Like attracts Like....   And if the results and cirmcumstances in your personal and professional life are not congruent with your desires, it is time to look in the mirror, and/or stop vomitting on people....

Best, 
Brian-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Community-  Thanks for the comments, very interesting&#8230;</p>
<p>I recently sent an invite/s (with a thoughtful note/commenting on a recent post) to one of the big 4 social networking sites, to several SR LEVEL Staffing folks (From F100), and within an hour received an acceptance/s and note back..</p>
<p>I always remember the &#8220;golden rule&#8221; when I engage with people.. &#8220;treat others as I want to be treated&#8221;</p>
<p>Like attracts Like&#8230;.   And if the results and cirmcumstances in your personal and professional life are not congruent with your desires, it is time to look in the mirror, and/or stop vomitting on people&#8230;.</p>
<p>Best,<br />
Brian-</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Halperin</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2009/10/01/we-should-be-ashamed-treating-candidates-with-respect/comment-page-1/#comment-16125</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Halperin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Warren,

I&#039;d like to believe that (I have a LONG hiring memory), but as Raghav Singh said (http://www.ere.net/2009/10/07/wanted-cash-for-hires/), we may not have to worry about things turning around significantly any time soon. Also, how many ordinary folks have the luxury of deciding between a company that treats them nicely and a company that doesn&#039;t? Finally, when is the last time senior-level staffing people (particularly at prestige employers) were &quot;called on the carpet&quot; for allowing any number of ordinary applicants to have dysfunctional hiring experiences? We may &quot;tsk, tsk&quot; all we like here, but as long as someone has the power, they can treat people almost any way they like. 

Keith</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Warren,</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to believe that (I have a LONG hiring memory), but as Raghav Singh said (<a href="http://www.ere.net/2009/10/07/wanted-cash-for-hires/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ere.net/2009/10/07/wanted-cash-for-hires/</a>), we may not have to worry about things turning around significantly any time soon. Also, how many ordinary folks have the luxury of deciding between a company that treats them nicely and a company that doesn&#8217;t? Finally, when is the last time senior-level staffing people (particularly at prestige employers) were &#8220;called on the carpet&#8221; for allowing any number of ordinary applicants to have dysfunctional hiring experiences? We may &#8220;tsk, tsk&#8221; all we like here, but as long as someone has the power, they can treat people almost any way they like. </p>
<p>Keith</p>
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		<title>By: Warren Cusick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warren Cusick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 05:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin,

Your absolutely right. A company may not have any openings now in this economy, but when things turn around, the people who were slighted, ignored, not responded to, will be hesitant or deaf to out reach from those companies showed them no interest previously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin,</p>
<p>Your absolutely right. A company may not have any openings now in this economy, but when things turn around, the people who were slighted, ignored, not responded to, will be hesitant or deaf to out reach from those companies showed them no interest previously.</p>
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		<title>By: alstin communications » Don&#8217;t Forget the Human Side of HR</title>
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		<dc:creator>alstin communications » Don&#8217;t Forget the Human Side of HR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] yet again after reading a couple of back-to-back blog posts in recent weeks. The first was titled We Should Be Ashamed (ouch) by Kevin Wheeler. He touched upon some of the real frustrations those in his circle are encountering while on a job [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] yet again after reading a couple of back-to-back blog posts in recent weeks. The first was titled We Should Be Ashamed (ouch) by Kevin Wheeler. He touched upon some of the real frustrations those in his circle are encountering while on a job [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Spoor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Spoor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 00:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only solution I see to this is to have all applicants take a bare bones (cheap) early stage automated assessment soley based on their job qualificaions. Then have the ATS return a email explaining in greater detail than a normal TD letter where they are lacking and how they scored in those areas. This can be done and is being done by some companies. Specific detailed feedback would mitigate much of the candidate angst.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only solution I see to this is to have all applicants take a bare bones (cheap) early stage automated assessment soley based on their job qualificaions. Then have the ATS return a email explaining in greater detail than a normal TD letter where they are lacking and how they scored in those areas. This can be done and is being done by some companies. Specific detailed feedback would mitigate much of the candidate angst.</p>
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		<title>By: Many employers have poor recruiting processes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Many employers have poor recruiting processes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 14:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] You can read the article in full here.     Posted in Interviewing, Recruiting Process &#124; Tags: Career Web Sites [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] You can read the article in full here.     Posted in Interviewing, Recruiting Process | Tags: Career Web Sites [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Wheeler</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2009/10/01/we-should-be-ashamed-treating-candidates-with-respect/comment-page-1/#comment-15617</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Wheeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 21:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holly,

My article may have been a rant, but I fail to see how disrespecting candidates is putting the business first.  No business can be ultimately successfuly if candidates are receiving poor service or are speaking ill of it. My comments are directed only at those who are not serving candidates well. If you are treating them with respect, then you should, of course, not be ashamed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holly,</p>
<p>My article may have been a rant, but I fail to see how disrespecting candidates is putting the business first.  No business can be ultimately successfuly if candidates are receiving poor service or are speaking ill of it. My comments are directed only at those who are not serving candidates well. If you are treating them with respect, then you should, of course, not be ashamed.</p>
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		<title>By: Holly Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holly Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 21:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this article to be nothing more than a rant.  I am an HR professional with recruiting responsibility for a global company.  I am inclined to put the needs of the business first; not the other way around.  And above all, I am not ashamed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this article to be nothing more than a rant.  I am an HR professional with recruiting responsibility for a global company.  I am inclined to put the needs of the business first; not the other way around.  And above all, I am not ashamed.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Hinds</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2009/10/01/we-should-be-ashamed-treating-candidates-with-respect/comment-page-1/#comment-15612</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry Hinds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 19:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article and comments and I will add another slant. I haven&#039;t read much said about the responsibility of the applicant. Even before the economy went south (now it&#039;s even worse), I see many applicants that have no idea how to present themselves in a resume, on the phone, or think that I or the company owes them a job just because they applied. And I am not just talking about lower level jobs but very high level also. I see so many applicants that have gotten big title names in their resume but never had to think for themselves or even had the slightest clue what the big picture is or how their mistakes or ideas effect the organization. I hate to say it but the dumbing down of America continues and I see and hear it everyday from many job seekers. Yes, companies and organizations have faults and I agree with a lot of the comments but the applicant bears some responsibility also. I still think many companies are looking for the best people for the positions and not everyone is the best even when they think they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article and comments and I will add another slant. I haven&#8217;t read much said about the responsibility of the applicant. Even before the economy went south (now it&#8217;s even worse), I see many applicants that have no idea how to present themselves in a resume, on the phone, or think that I or the company owes them a job just because they applied. And I am not just talking about lower level jobs but very high level also. I see so many applicants that have gotten big title names in their resume but never had to think for themselves or even had the slightest clue what the big picture is or how their mistakes or ideas effect the organization. I hate to say it but the dumbing down of America continues and I see and hear it everyday from many job seekers. Yes, companies and organizations have faults and I agree with a lot of the comments but the applicant bears some responsibility also. I still think many companies are looking for the best people for the positions and not everyone is the best even when they think they are.</p>
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		<title>By: Heidi Burkley</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2009/10/01/we-should-be-ashamed-treating-candidates-with-respect/comment-page-1/#comment-15605</link>
		<dc:creator>Heidi Burkley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 15:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Stephanie:

First I&#039;d like to commend you on being transparent on the challenges you face with managing your recruiting function and secondly I think that you bring valid points to the table that should be discuss.

As you know, by definition recruiters seek out or go after their intended target whereas by contrast a recruiter administrator manages tasks.  In regards to this discussion, one of the inherent issues in my mind is how the recruiting process is executed and how it must add value to the candidate experience so that it positions the company positively in the minds of job seekers. Ultimately it must achieve its intended purpose: hire the right person.

While the obstacles you face are not unique to recruitment they represent real challenges for you and many alike.  As I read your post three things came to my mind which was: flow management, communication strategies, and the referral process. Based upon your post parts of your process are managing you rather than you managing it. 

I believe that in order to effectively recruit you must get ahead of the game. In others words the recruiter must be in the driver seat proactively seeking out talent rather than responding in a reactionary mode.  

The question is how do you get to that point? It is through your process. I&#039;ve learned that if something is not working you must step back, look at the steps in your process and determine where the inefficiencies or pain points rest. For example, if you are reduplicating work that’s inefficient.  As I noted above perhaps your inefficiencies are: flow management, communication strategies, and the referral process.  I would recommend that you and your team look at each of these areas, analyze the procedure, figure out what’s causing the problem with each procedure and develop solutions that require you to think outside of the box. 

I could go on and on about how to address these issues but Kevin did a great job of laying out the frame work above and ERE has great articles already written.  I would be happy to continue this discussion on a Blog or other communication mediums as this is a fascinating topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Stephanie:</p>
<p>First I&#8217;d like to commend you on being transparent on the challenges you face with managing your recruiting function and secondly I think that you bring valid points to the table that should be discuss.</p>
<p>As you know, by definition recruiters seek out or go after their intended target whereas by contrast a recruiter administrator manages tasks.  In regards to this discussion, one of the inherent issues in my mind is how the recruiting process is executed and how it must add value to the candidate experience so that it positions the company positively in the minds of job seekers. Ultimately it must achieve its intended purpose: hire the right person.</p>
<p>While the obstacles you face are not unique to recruitment they represent real challenges for you and many alike.  As I read your post three things came to my mind which was: flow management, communication strategies, and the referral process. Based upon your post parts of your process are managing you rather than you managing it. </p>
<p>I believe that in order to effectively recruit you must get ahead of the game. In others words the recruiter must be in the driver seat proactively seeking out talent rather than responding in a reactionary mode.  </p>
<p>The question is how do you get to that point? It is through your process. I&#8217;ve learned that if something is not working you must step back, look at the steps in your process and determine where the inefficiencies or pain points rest. For example, if you are reduplicating work that’s inefficient.  As I noted above perhaps your inefficiencies are: flow management, communication strategies, and the referral process.  I would recommend that you and your team look at each of these areas, analyze the procedure, figure out what’s causing the problem with each procedure and develop solutions that require you to think outside of the box. </p>
<p>I could go on and on about how to address these issues but Kevin did a great job of laying out the frame work above and ERE has great articles already written.  I would be happy to continue this discussion on a Blog or other communication mediums as this is a fascinating topic.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Branding Goodwill &#124; Unforgettable Name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 08:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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