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		<title>By: Nancy Anton advice to Overqualified professionals &#124;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy Anton advice to Overqualified professionals &#124;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 00:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Don Harkness</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Harkness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 16:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The article is timely and makes many good points, as do the responses. Technically I&#039;m an &quot;overqualified&quot; in house recruiter. although 70, I mean that in terms that perhaps someone with lesser experience could do this, if what I do is only confined to recruiting. I prefer to think I&#039;m a resident gray beard valued for years of managerial experience.
In that prior life as a manager I had no qualms about hiring &quot;overqualified&quot; people. I didn&#039;t hire them in droves, but always always looked. I learned mgmt 101 early as does my president. Hire people smarter than you are. Having some people like that on the bench also positioned my organization to be fast on it&#039;s feet.
I&#039;m pretty much in Mary Slepicka&#039;s school of thought. I never assume. Also others include motiviation as a consideration.  I&#039;d sum my 2 cents up as never assume. explore and make an informed decision. The right overqualified person, with the right motivation is a super value add. There are scores of reasons why someone would take on a mission that on the surface they are overqualified for.
Another point to consider &amp; I don&#039;t think I saw it mentioned were insecure, underqualified hiring managers who don&#039;t understand mgmt 101 and afraid to move out of their comfort zones and hire equal or lesser to themselves forgetting or not knowing you are only as good as the people working for you. Simply put they are afraid to bring someone on, who technically can do their jobs or better. 
No matter how well you source, interview, hire, remember there are no guarantees and that includes hiring overqualifieds, dead ons and people who need to grow.
But overall a good dialogue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article is timely and makes many good points, as do the responses. Technically I&#8217;m an &#8220;overqualified&#8221; in house recruiter. although 70, I mean that in terms that perhaps someone with lesser experience could do this, if what I do is only confined to recruiting. I prefer to think I&#8217;m a resident gray beard valued for years of managerial experience.<br />
In that prior life as a manager I had no qualms about hiring &#8220;overqualified&#8221; people. I didn&#8217;t hire them in droves, but always always looked. I learned mgmt 101 early as does my president. Hire people smarter than you are. Having some people like that on the bench also positioned my organization to be fast on it&#8217;s feet.<br />
I&#8217;m pretty much in Mary Slepicka&#8217;s school of thought. I never assume. Also others include motiviation as a consideration.  I&#8217;d sum my 2 cents up as never assume. explore and make an informed decision. The right overqualified person, with the right motivation is a super value add. There are scores of reasons why someone would take on a mission that on the surface they are overqualified for.<br />
Another point to consider &amp; I don&#8217;t think I saw it mentioned were insecure, underqualified hiring managers who don&#8217;t understand mgmt 101 and afraid to move out of their comfort zones and hire equal or lesser to themselves forgetting or not knowing you are only as good as the people working for you. Simply put they are afraid to bring someone on, who technically can do their jobs or better.<br />
No matter how well you source, interview, hire, remember there are no guarantees and that includes hiring overqualifieds, dead ons and people who need to grow.<br />
But overall a good dialogue.</p>
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		<title>By: Capricorn Moon</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2009/09/30/overqualified-need-not-apply/comment-page-1/#comment-18145</link>
		<dc:creator>Capricorn Moon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 04:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came across this article while googling &quot;overqualified and management&quot;.  

As I read this article, a rush of aha moments flooded me.  I am an overqualified worker.

 I was laid of last year due to the recession.  I was working for a Big 4 as a IT forensics specialist.  I have two technical degrees.  After having no luck finding a job; I got anxious.  I have no family and I had just graduated from grad school.   I NEEDED to work. So, I applied for an entry level job as a system admin. 

 Yes.  A person with two degrees and 3 years experience in IT forensics applied for an entry level system admin position.  Originally, I was rejected off the bat.  The hiring manager said I was way overqualified.  A friend who was a manager in another department talked the HM into hiring me.

Now I am &quot;bored, frustrated and discouraged&quot;. LOL. Like the article mentioned, management ignores my suggestions to improve things.  Since I have more knowledge than my co-workers; I have been put in a position of  “implied manager“. 
Yet, I do not get compensated as a manager nor will the department give me the power of a manager.  So, I do manager duties with no title, recognition, pay, or power to fix things.  

Don&#039;t get me wrong.  I love the company but I do feel under used and a little abused.  I am happy to have a job but I would like to be challenged and recognized.  Originally, I thought that I could quickly work my way back up the corporate ladder once I started to exceed at my job. However, seniority entitlement oppose to skill runs rampant.

I do believe giving an overqualified worker more leadway is the best way to manage them. My managers guard their job and the delegation of extra responsibilities like a hawk. What makes matters worse is that I am only 29. Most of my co-workers are 40+  I think they resent the fact that a 29yr old has more insight.

I am glad that I came across this article.  I now know these feelings aren&#039;t &quot;all in my head&quot;. However, I may need to transfer to another department ASAP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came across this article while googling &#8220;overqualified and management&#8221;.  </p>
<p>As I read this article, a rush of aha moments flooded me.  I am an overqualified worker.</p>
<p> I was laid of last year due to the recession.  I was working for a Big 4 as a IT forensics specialist.  I have two technical degrees.  After having no luck finding a job; I got anxious.  I have no family and I had just graduated from grad school.   I NEEDED to work. So, I applied for an entry level job as a system admin. </p>
<p> Yes.  A person with two degrees and 3 years experience in IT forensics applied for an entry level system admin position.  Originally, I was rejected off the bat.  The hiring manager said I was way overqualified.  A friend who was a manager in another department talked the HM into hiring me.</p>
<p>Now I am &#8220;bored, frustrated and discouraged&#8221;. LOL. Like the article mentioned, management ignores my suggestions to improve things.  Since I have more knowledge than my co-workers; I have been put in a position of  “implied manager“.<br />
Yet, I do not get compensated as a manager nor will the department give me the power of a manager.  So, I do manager duties with no title, recognition, pay, or power to fix things.  </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong.  I love the company but I do feel under used and a little abused.  I am happy to have a job but I would like to be challenged and recognized.  Originally, I thought that I could quickly work my way back up the corporate ladder once I started to exceed at my job. However, seniority entitlement oppose to skill runs rampant.</p>
<p>I do believe giving an overqualified worker more leadway is the best way to manage them. My managers guard their job and the delegation of extra responsibilities like a hawk. What makes matters worse is that I am only 29. Most of my co-workers are 40+  I think they resent the fact that a 29yr old has more insight.</p>
<p>I am glad that I came across this article.  I now know these feelings aren&#8217;t &#8220;all in my head&#8221;. However, I may need to transfer to another department ASAP.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Letourneau</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua Letourneau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nancy, this is a good article and in my estimation, a pertinent conversation we should be having today.

In an effort to add to the discussion, let&#039;s keep in mind that a recessionary economy is an extremely difficult time for certain talent pools in shrinking industries.  For example, suppose a Director of IT is laid off due to downsizing, lagging consumer sales, or a recessionary acquisition of their current firm.  They are then tossed into an employment market in which companies are looking to acquire talent &quot;on the cheap&quot; . . . in a world where there are ~6 candidates per every job opening.  Each and every day (as an Exec Recruiter), I feel the pain of these types of candidates who see no &quot;Director of IT&quot; roles open anymore . . . but they are willing to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and take a role a level or two down &quot;just to get back into the game.&quot;  And you know what?  I really don&#039;t blame them - isn&#039;t the American way to improvise, adapt, and overcome?  Sometimes the hand we&#039;re dealt isn&#039;t the best, but we have to roll with the punches.  If that means a title reduction or a cut in pay, so be it.

After all, what&#039;s the alternative?  Sure, Uncle Sam is extending unemployment benefits in some states . . . but most talent would rather be engaged and working than job hunting, even if a government check is rolling in each week.  I&#039;m sure all of us have been in difficult circumstances like this once or twice in our lives - let&#039;s not forget how it feels.

A suggestion you make is that &quot;The best candidate for a position is one who can do 50 to 75% of the work with the need to learn and grow to master the task.&quot;  Are you saying an ideal candidate is someone who can only do 1/2 to 3/4 of what is expected for the job?  In sales and engineering disciplines, someone who only meets 1/2 to 3/4 of their KPIs&#039; is likely on the chopping block.  As an Executive Recruiter, I cannot imagine telling a Client that my candidate &quot;has only met 50% of their quota the last few years, but I believe they&#039;ll be a top producer in your organization.&quot;  Seriously, I am baffled by the notion of recruiting mediocrity, meaning a world where we&#039;re reduced to finding candidates who can only do 50% to 75% of the job.

This mentality may lend organizations to acquire a 3-5 year professional (who can only be counted on to do half the work) instead of a 10 - 15 year professional that can predictably meet 95% to 100% of the job&#039;s demands.

Anyway, this is a deep conversation with multiple variables, so please don&#039;t see my comments as contrary in any way.  I&#039;m just trying to add some much needed balance to the discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nancy, this is a good article and in my estimation, a pertinent conversation we should be having today.</p>
<p>In an effort to add to the discussion, let&#8217;s keep in mind that a recessionary economy is an extremely difficult time for certain talent pools in shrinking industries.  For example, suppose a Director of IT is laid off due to downsizing, lagging consumer sales, or a recessionary acquisition of their current firm.  They are then tossed into an employment market in which companies are looking to acquire talent &#8220;on the cheap&#8221; . . . in a world where there are ~6 candidates per every job opening.  Each and every day (as an Exec Recruiter), I feel the pain of these types of candidates who see no &#8220;Director of IT&#8221; roles open anymore . . . but they are willing to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and take a role a level or two down &#8220;just to get back into the game.&#8221;  And you know what?  I really don&#8217;t blame them &#8211; isn&#8217;t the American way to improvise, adapt, and overcome?  Sometimes the hand we&#8217;re dealt isn&#8217;t the best, but we have to roll with the punches.  If that means a title reduction or a cut in pay, so be it.</p>
<p>After all, what&#8217;s the alternative?  Sure, Uncle Sam is extending unemployment benefits in some states . . . but most talent would rather be engaged and working than job hunting, even if a government check is rolling in each week.  I&#8217;m sure all of us have been in difficult circumstances like this once or twice in our lives &#8211; let&#8217;s not forget how it feels.</p>
<p>A suggestion you make is that &#8220;The best candidate for a position is one who can do 50 to 75% of the work with the need to learn and grow to master the task.&#8221;  Are you saying an ideal candidate is someone who can only do 1/2 to 3/4 of what is expected for the job?  In sales and engineering disciplines, someone who only meets 1/2 to 3/4 of their KPIs&#8217; is likely on the chopping block.  As an Executive Recruiter, I cannot imagine telling a Client that my candidate &#8220;has only met 50% of their quota the last few years, but I believe they&#8217;ll be a top producer in your organization.&#8221;  Seriously, I am baffled by the notion of recruiting mediocrity, meaning a world where we&#8217;re reduced to finding candidates who can only do 50% to 75% of the job.</p>
<p>This mentality may lend organizations to acquire a 3-5 year professional (who can only be counted on to do half the work) instead of a 10 &#8211; 15 year professional that can predictably meet 95% to 100% of the job&#8217;s demands.</p>
<p>Anyway, this is a deep conversation with multiple variables, so please don&#8217;t see my comments as contrary in any way.  I&#8217;m just trying to add some much needed balance to the discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Overqualified for the Job? Recruiters Say, &#8220;Change Careers&#8221; &#124; career-line.com</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2009/09/30/overqualified-need-not-apply/comment-page-1/#comment-15660</link>
		<dc:creator>Overqualified for the Job? Recruiters Say, &#8220;Change Careers&#8221; &#124; career-line.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 21:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] bored, frustrated and discouraged, and the moral in the office may suffer,&#8221; she writes on her ERE.net blog. Anton said the only acceptable hire is one that balances experience and the opportunity for growth [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sheri Harris</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2009/09/30/overqualified-need-not-apply/comment-page-1/#comment-15643</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheri Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 18:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...We have hired very qualified people who have indeed wanted to stop and smell the roses at this time in their career, instead of managing or leading, and they are doing great and adding needed expertise.&quot;

EXACTLY. Thank you Michelle. Most candidates who have climbed higher in the past probably fall into the camp this article originally describes and won&#039;t be happy long-term. BUT hopefully there are still some hiring managers and recruiters who will be willing to consider this angle as a possibility when screening/interviewing... 

...particularly for specialized fields like IT or creative where day-to-day project opportunities can offer even &quot;seasoned&quot; candidate tremendous gratification and challenge.

Give the person a chance to articulate WHY they&#039;re downscaling - and you just may find a promising fit for both company and the motivated candidate who has a lot to contribute and is eager to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;We have hired very qualified people who have indeed wanted to stop and smell the roses at this time in their career, instead of managing or leading, and they are doing great and adding needed expertise.&#8221;</p>
<p>EXACTLY. Thank you Michelle. Most candidates who have climbed higher in the past probably fall into the camp this article originally describes and won&#8217;t be happy long-term. BUT hopefully there are still some hiring managers and recruiters who will be willing to consider this angle as a possibility when screening/interviewing&#8230; </p>
<p>&#8230;particularly for specialized fields like IT or creative where day-to-day project opportunities can offer even &#8220;seasoned&#8221; candidate tremendous gratification and challenge.</p>
<p>Give the person a chance to articulate WHY they&#8217;re downscaling &#8211; and you just may find a promising fit for both company and the motivated candidate who has a lot to contribute and is eager to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Rawicz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Rawicz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 18:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article on a topic we have been up against many times this year. Trying to explain to individuals has been very challenging - a lot of folks take offense. And this is not about age but rather what you stated: possibly not being a culture fit and not being happy in the long run on both sides, because in this recession companies can&#039;t use someone &quot;who wants to work their way up&quot; again. We have hired very qualified people who have indeed wanted to stop and smell the roses at this time in their career, instead of managing or leading, and they are doing great and adding needed expertise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article on a topic we have been up against many times this year. Trying to explain to individuals has been very challenging &#8211; a lot of folks take offense. And this is not about age but rather what you stated: possibly not being a culture fit and not being happy in the long run on both sides, because in this recession companies can&#8217;t use someone &#8220;who wants to work their way up&#8221; again. We have hired very qualified people who have indeed wanted to stop and smell the roses at this time in their career, instead of managing or leading, and they are doing great and adding needed expertise.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernard Walko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernard Walko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 13:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations to the writer of this article that “gets it”. I worked for an organization in the past that routinely hired overqualified people for positions (thinking they were getting the most bang for the buck).

The bottom line: Because of all the reasons listed in this article, the people they brought on board were malcontents after they were over being “happy to have a job”. Then the senior people who were responsible for the hires then couldn’t understand why the organization production dropped and moral was lower than whale stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations to the writer of this article that “gets it”. I worked for an organization in the past that routinely hired overqualified people for positions (thinking they were getting the most bang for the buck).</p>
<p>The bottom line: Because of all the reasons listed in this article, the people they brought on board were malcontents after they were over being “happy to have a job”. Then the senior people who were responsible for the hires then couldn’t understand why the organization production dropped and moral was lower than whale stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Sorry you are over qualified &#171; TalentScience</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sorry you are over qualified &#171; TalentScience</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 00:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sorry you are over&#160;qualified By ccmark  http://www.ere.net/2009/09/30/overqualified-need-not-apply/#comments [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mervyn Dinnen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mervyn Dinnen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting post Nancy. 

I am a 3rd party recruiter specialising in HR roles, and what I find is that a lot of positions I get are developmental roles, ie a Director or Senior Manager is looking to hire someone who they can develop and who can eventually grow into a more senior role. They aren&#039;t necessarily looking for someone who can do the job comfortably at Day One because the opening is often part of a talent development agenda. 

The requirement is often for someone who will find the role a challenge and who can step up to the plate and prove themselves.

I&#039;m not sure it is a question of age, but of attitude...I have often spoken with more experienced candidates who &#039;don&#039;t mind&#039; doing the role, or will do the role because &#039;once they&#039;ve seen what I can do, I&#039;m sure they&#039;ll find me more to do&#039;...none ever says &#039;that would be a great role for me, I can bring a lot to it and help develop the Manager develop their offering&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting post Nancy. </p>
<p>I am a 3rd party recruiter specialising in HR roles, and what I find is that a lot of positions I get are developmental roles, ie a Director or Senior Manager is looking to hire someone who they can develop and who can eventually grow into a more senior role. They aren&#8217;t necessarily looking for someone who can do the job comfortably at Day One because the opening is often part of a talent development agenda. </p>
<p>The requirement is often for someone who will find the role a challenge and who can step up to the plate and prove themselves.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure it is a question of age, but of attitude&#8230;I have often spoken with more experienced candidates who &#8216;don&#8217;t mind&#8217; doing the role, or will do the role because &#8216;once they&#8217;ve seen what I can do, I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;ll find me more to do&#8217;&#8230;none ever says &#8216;that would be a great role for me, I can bring a lot to it and help develop the Manager develop their offering&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Sheri Harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sheri Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not every manager or director-level professional wishes to climb to a higher rung for the rest of their career. Some of us have been there, done that and decided we can be challenged by the nature of the work itself, vs worrying about matching the same title/power we had before. As one astute person pointed out, the ladder is more like a lattice now.  

Frankly, it&#039;s not realistic for most people to plan a long career with a single upward trajectory anyway, as there are fewer high-level roles left and more folks competing for them. Firms continue to flatten their org structure even as senior employees in these positions delay retirement. Many slashed manager/director roles aren&#039;t coming back - recession or no recession. 

While I&#039;ve led teams successfully as a staff director for Fortune 100 firms with outstanding results, I could definitely see myself seeking a manager or even senior-level strategic writer role in 2010 or 2011 if the fit is right. NOT out of economic panic or desperation, but because my first love is strategic copy/marketing writing...and like most professional disciplines, the further up you go, the less of it you get to do! 

I guess the trick is figuring out which candidates genuinely love what they do and are open to assuming different roles/levels in doing it...vs those grasping at any straw to tide them over while they keep looking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not every manager or director-level professional wishes to climb to a higher rung for the rest of their career. Some of us have been there, done that and decided we can be challenged by the nature of the work itself, vs worrying about matching the same title/power we had before. As one astute person pointed out, the ladder is more like a lattice now.  </p>
<p>Frankly, it&#8217;s not realistic for most people to plan a long career with a single upward trajectory anyway, as there are fewer high-level roles left and more folks competing for them. Firms continue to flatten their org structure even as senior employees in these positions delay retirement. Many slashed manager/director roles aren&#8217;t coming back &#8211; recession or no recession. </p>
<p>While I&#8217;ve led teams successfully as a staff director for Fortune 100 firms with outstanding results, I could definitely see myself seeking a manager or even senior-level strategic writer role in 2010 or 2011 if the fit is right. NOT out of economic panic or desperation, but because my first love is strategic copy/marketing writing&#8230;and like most professional disciplines, the further up you go, the less of it you get to do! </p>
<p>I guess the trick is figuring out which candidates genuinely love what they do and are open to assuming different roles/levels in doing it&#8230;vs those grasping at any straw to tide them over while they keep looking.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Slepicka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Slepicka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting article that raises many valid points. It&#039;s also worthwhile to consider that many &quot;overqualified&quot; candidates -- especially those who ARE older -- may actually want to take a so-called &quot;easier&quot; job in order to improve their personal quality of life. If you could afford to do so, wouldn&#039;t it be nice to have a pleasant job that you could perform easily and competently, and still have time to smell the roses?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article that raises many valid points. It&#8217;s also worthwhile to consider that many &#8220;overqualified&#8221; candidates &#8212; especially those who ARE older &#8212; may actually want to take a so-called &#8220;easier&#8221; job in order to improve their personal quality of life. If you could afford to do so, wouldn&#8217;t it be nice to have a pleasant job that you could perform easily and competently, and still have time to smell the roses?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Eskenazi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Eskenazi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate that this article was posted. Thank you to Nancy and ERE.

If a recruiter or HR professional submits a resume to a hiring manager after reviewing their skills and abilities, and the hiring manager responds indicating that they are &quot;overqualified&quot;, in my many years of experience this is just a way to say that they are too &quot;old&quot;. 

One of the biggest challenges for the HR and Recruiting profession is the ability to recognize that the workforce is getting older overall, and there are less and less people who are in fact &quot;qualified&quot; for many roles in the workforce, and when a candidate who is &quot;qualified&quot; for the position but has more years of experience than the &quot;expected&quot;, we must be willing to take a stand, push back, and challenge hiring managers. I have never seen any research on &quot;overqualified&quot; workers being bored, frustrated, or discouraged. One of the biggest reasons why managers often disqualify &quot;overqualified&quot;/older workers, especially in a tough economy is that when the economy turns up, the overqualified workers will leave for a higher level position or more pay. I have never seen any research to support such a statement, and in my own experience...I have seen much turnover when the economics change for the better... but its across the board-- when people are not satisfied with their work, their pay, their boss, they leave. Period. It doesnt matter how qualified or old they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate that this article was posted. Thank you to Nancy and ERE.</p>
<p>If a recruiter or HR professional submits a resume to a hiring manager after reviewing their skills and abilities, and the hiring manager responds indicating that they are &#8220;overqualified&#8221;, in my many years of experience this is just a way to say that they are too &#8220;old&#8221;. </p>
<p>One of the biggest challenges for the HR and Recruiting profession is the ability to recognize that the workforce is getting older overall, and there are less and less people who are in fact &#8220;qualified&#8221; for many roles in the workforce, and when a candidate who is &#8220;qualified&#8221; for the position but has more years of experience than the &#8220;expected&#8221;, we must be willing to take a stand, push back, and challenge hiring managers. I have never seen any research on &#8220;overqualified&#8221; workers being bored, frustrated, or discouraged. One of the biggest reasons why managers often disqualify &#8220;overqualified&#8221;/older workers, especially in a tough economy is that when the economy turns up, the overqualified workers will leave for a higher level position or more pay. I have never seen any research to support such a statement, and in my own experience&#8230;I have seen much turnover when the economics change for the better&#8230; but its across the board&#8211; when people are not satisfied with their work, their pay, their boss, they leave. Period. It doesnt matter how qualified or old they are.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Ely</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Ely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a good article with several great points.  Another point of consideration is the Hiring Manager themselves.  If they hire a Manager for a Journey Level Position at 40% less money than what they were making as a Manager, sometimes the Hiring Manager for that department may feel obligated to bring them in at a higher rate of pay, creating compression issues within the organization.  The Hiring Manager needs to realize they are hiring a Journey Level staff member, not a Manager, and the hire should be compensated as such.  Also, if the new employee is brought in at a higher rate of pay the organization may experience moral issues from current employees, especially if pay freezes or furloughs are in effect.   Once things get better in the economy, and companies start hiring again, those disenfranchised employees are going to leave draining your organization of talent and setting you up for a longer recovery time.  Your organization is going to need a strong and secure Hiring Manager to manage these types of situations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a good article with several great points.  Another point of consideration is the Hiring Manager themselves.  If they hire a Manager for a Journey Level Position at 40% less money than what they were making as a Manager, sometimes the Hiring Manager for that department may feel obligated to bring them in at a higher rate of pay, creating compression issues within the organization.  The Hiring Manager needs to realize they are hiring a Journey Level staff member, not a Manager, and the hire should be compensated as such.  Also, if the new employee is brought in at a higher rate of pay the organization may experience moral issues from current employees, especially if pay freezes or furloughs are in effect.   Once things get better in the economy, and companies start hiring again, those disenfranchised employees are going to leave draining your organization of talent and setting you up for a longer recovery time.  Your organization is going to need a strong and secure Hiring Manager to manage these types of situations.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Spoor</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2009/09/30/overqualified-need-not-apply/comment-page-1/#comment-15500</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Spoor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like any hiring decision, you have to assess the candidate&#039;s fit for the role based their CURRENT skills, abilities and motivations. Trying to divine (errrr...stereotype) someone&#039;s motivations and capabilities by looking backwards doesn&#039;t give you the complete picture and is possibly dangerous from a compliance standpoint. There are ways to assess motivation and predict turnover. Also, my guess is that overqualified workers turnover at the same rate as less qualified ones assuming they both went through the same assessment filters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like any hiring decision, you have to assess the candidate&#8217;s fit for the role based their CURRENT skills, abilities and motivations. Trying to divine (errrr&#8230;stereotype) someone&#8217;s motivations and capabilities by looking backwards doesn&#8217;t give you the complete picture and is possibly dangerous from a compliance standpoint. There are ways to assess motivation and predict turnover. Also, my guess is that overqualified workers turnover at the same rate as less qualified ones assuming they both went through the same assessment filters.</p>
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		<title>By: Renee Ward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renee Ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nancy, what’s your backup to support your statement? “Overqualified workers will be quickly bored, frustrated and discouraged, and the moral in the office may suffer.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nancy, what’s your backup to support your statement? “Overqualified workers will be quickly bored, frustrated and discouraged, and the moral in the office may suffer.”</p>
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		<title>By: Brenda Le</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brenda Le</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article!  I&#039;ve seen both sides from hiring managers, some being hung up on titles and others willing to be flexible, as Sharon and Mark describe above.  And Thomas, your comment is right on the mark as well, I have seen a lot of candidates who did not even get the 10 second scan, and yes, these candidates are human too!  &quot;Overqualified&quot; candidates have a lot to contribute and HM&#039;s don&#039;t even realize they are missing out on potential candidates who could move the company in a better direction.  Then there is the giant green monster - jealousy!  Yes, those HM&#039;s do exist, they fear a better qualified candidate can/will take their job!

Brenda

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article!  I&#8217;ve seen both sides from hiring managers, some being hung up on titles and others willing to be flexible, as Sharon and Mark describe above.  And Thomas, your comment is right on the mark as well, I have seen a lot of candidates who did not even get the 10 second scan, and yes, these candidates are human too!  &#8220;Overqualified&#8221; candidates have a lot to contribute and HM&#8217;s don&#8217;t even realize they are missing out on potential candidates who could move the company in a better direction.  Then there is the giant green monster &#8211; jealousy!  Yes, those HM&#8217;s do exist, they fear a better qualified candidate can/will take their job!</p>
<p>Brenda</p>
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		<title>By: Sharon McCone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharon McCone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another alternative for the &quot;overqualified&quot; is for them to be considered in a similar or one-off position in a larger organization.  A Senior VP for event planning in an association with 10,000 members may be a Senior Manager in an organization whose annual meeting is attended by 40,000 and includes video teleconference.  A CEO for a 200-bed private hospital may be an ideal COO for a 500-bed medical center.  Don&#039;t look down ... look up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another alternative for the &#8220;overqualified&#8221; is for them to be considered in a similar or one-off position in a larger organization.  A Senior VP for event planning in an association with 10,000 members may be a Senior Manager in an organization whose annual meeting is attended by 40,000 and includes video teleconference.  A CEO for a 200-bed private hospital may be an ideal COO for a 500-bed medical center.  Don&#8217;t look down &#8230; look up!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Spoor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Spoor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great topic Nancy. Thanks for posting. 

Pegging someone based on age to a certain rung on the ladder is so 90s and not where we are heading. The ladder has become the lattice and its perfectly fine to move up and down and sideways and accross. Most employees have accepted this, but many companies are still clinging to a up or out mentality. Also, I don&#039;t buy that most managers want someone who is 50-70% of the capibility needed for the job. Those are not the specs I am seeing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great topic Nancy. Thanks for posting. </p>
<p>Pegging someone based on age to a certain rung on the ladder is so 90s and not where we are heading. The ladder has become the lattice and its perfectly fine to move up and down and sideways and accross. Most employees have accepted this, but many companies are still clinging to a up or out mentality. Also, I don&#8217;t buy that most managers want someone who is 50-70% of the capibility needed for the job. Those are not the specs I am seeing.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Bolt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Bolt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article by Nancy which focuses on the two edged sword of experienced applicants hitting the panic button in a down economy. On the one hand, &quot;Overqualified&quot; has become a euphemism for age discrimination and too many managers or recruiters discard such candidates without even the courtesy of the 10 second resume scan. To these people, real human beings, there is the perception that they are being told, &quot;You are old, here&#039;s a gun, shoot yourself!&quot; On the other hand, it is difficult to understand why experienced and otherwise knowledgeable persons lapse into the naive believe that they would fit in to an entry level or lesser role. Reality is that organizational fit is key. For managers: There is usually a place for over-experienced contributors in an advisory, player-coach or consultant position if managed properly. For senior talent: There is a job for you if you bring added value to the organization and you have realistic expectations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article by Nancy which focuses on the two edged sword of experienced applicants hitting the panic button in a down economy. On the one hand, &#8220;Overqualified&#8221; has become a euphemism for age discrimination and too many managers or recruiters discard such candidates without even the courtesy of the 10 second resume scan. To these people, real human beings, there is the perception that they are being told, &#8220;You are old, here&#8217;s a gun, shoot yourself!&#8221; On the other hand, it is difficult to understand why experienced and otherwise knowledgeable persons lapse into the naive believe that they would fit in to an entry level or lesser role. Reality is that organizational fit is key. For managers: There is usually a place for over-experienced contributors in an advisory, player-coach or consultant position if managed properly. For senior talent: There is a job for you if you bring added value to the organization and you have realistic expectations.</p>
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