Comments on: Translating Military Service For The Civilian Work World http://www.ere.net/2009/08/28/translating-military-service-for-the-civilian-work-world/ Recruiting News, Recruiting Events, Recruiting Community, Social Recruiting Tue, 14 Feb 2012 01:03:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Two Military Transition Programs Honored By SHRM : ERE.net http://www.ere.net/2009/08/28/translating-military-service-for-the-civilian-work-world/comment-page-1/#comment-17383 Two Military Transition Programs Honored By SHRM : ERE.net Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:35:04 +0000 http://www.ere.net/?p=9427#comment-17383 [...] articles from John Zappe &raquo Related ArticlesTranslating Military Service For The Civilian Work World Aug 28, 2009, 5:21 am ETHiring Help From Uncle Sam May 26, 2009, [...] [...] articles from John Zappe &raquo Related ArticlesTranslating Military Service For The Civilian Work World Aug 28, 2009, 5:21 am ETHiring Help From Uncle Sam May 26, 2009, [...]

]]> By: Pay It Forward: Helping Military In Transition | Career Management Alliance Blog http://www.ere.net/2009/08/28/translating-military-service-for-the-civilian-work-world/comment-page-1/#comment-17185 Pay It Forward: Helping Military In Transition | Career Management Alliance Blog Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:34:00 +0000 http://www.ere.net/?p=9427#comment-17185 [...] event was promoted extensively including through my blog and summarized later in John Zappe’s article for ERE.. ...but the core of this event, what made it a bit different from other initiatives was [...] [...] event was promoted extensively including through my blog and summarized later in John Zappe’s article for ERE.. …but the core of this event, what made it a bit different from other initiatives was [...]

]]> By: Mark Ely http://www.ere.net/2009/08/28/translating-military-service-for-the-civilian-work-world/comment-page-1/#comment-14359 Mark Ely Mon, 31 Aug 2009 18:24:20 +0000 http://www.ere.net/?p=9427#comment-14359 This article is great and right on the money! I was recently at a Camp Pendleton career fair and a Corporal walked by my booth. It was slow and he paused to look at our job information. I asked him what type of work was he looking for when he got out of the Corps. He told me he didn’t know, “I am only a grunt” (infantry). I asked him, “If you are a Corporal I assume you had leadership over a fire team?” He said I was correct. I then asked. “If you were responsible for a fire team, that is about 4 – 6 Marines that you had responsibility for?” He said “yes.” I then said, “I assume that you needed to know your mission before going out, have alternate plans if things went south and had to communicate with your team those plans, and back up plans correct?” He looked at me, and said “yes it is.” I then enquired a little more. “So if you are going out on a mission you had to make sure your Marines not only knew the mission but had all the equipment to complete the mission such as weapons cleaned and operational, you had enough dope (ammo), frags, NVGs, first aid, com devices, Kevlar, and other tools necessary for your job?” He said, “Yes, that gear and more.” I then said. “On top of all that you had to make sure the Marines were safe, keeping an eye out for any indication the enemy was near or that IEDs were identified to prevent setting them off. I can’t imagine being 22 years old with that kind of responsibility.” The Corporal took a long look at me and said “I never thought of it like that, I was just doing my job.” That is the issue, these Service Men and Woman take what they do for granted as every day stuff, and I suppose for them it is. So when they are asked about it they downplay the importance of it all. That is why it is critical that they outline their job duties with someone who can not only help get it down on paper, but translate the Military lingo into a language that civilians understand. This article is great and right on the money! I was recently at a Camp Pendleton career fair and a Corporal walked by my booth. It was slow and he paused to look at our job information. I asked him what type of work was he looking for when he got out of the Corps. He told me he didn’t know, “I am only a grunt” (infantry). I asked him, “If you are a Corporal I assume you had leadership over a fire team?” He said I was correct. I then asked. “If you were responsible for a fire team, that is about 4 – 6 Marines that you had responsibility for?” He said “yes.” I then said, “I assume that you needed to know your mission before going out, have alternate plans if things went south and had to communicate with your team those plans, and back up plans correct?” He looked at me, and said “yes it is.” I then enquired a little more. “So if you are going out on a mission you had to make sure your Marines not only knew the mission but had all the equipment to complete the mission such as weapons cleaned and operational, you had enough dope (ammo), frags, NVGs, first aid, com devices, Kevlar, and other tools necessary for your job?” He said, “Yes, that gear and more.” I then said. “On top of all that you had to make sure the Marines were safe, keeping an eye out for any indication the enemy was near or that IEDs were identified to prevent setting them off. I can’t imagine being 22 years old with that kind of responsibility.” The Corporal took a long look at me and said “I never thought of it like that, I was just doing my job.”

That is the issue, these Service Men and Woman take what they do for granted as every day stuff, and I suppose for them it is. So when they are asked about it they downplay the importance of it all. That is why it is critical that they outline their job duties with someone who can not only help get it down on paper, but translate the Military lingo into a language that civilians understand.

]]> By: Carl Blum http://www.ere.net/2009/08/28/translating-military-service-for-the-civilian-work-world/comment-page-1/#comment-14323 Carl Blum Sat, 29 Aug 2009 00:12:28 +0000 http://www.ere.net/?p=9427#comment-14323 John Zappe did a wonderful service for those who protect us in the night while we sleep, our Soldiers. The impact of Sherrill Curtis and SHRM cannot be overstated. There were 125 volunteers from SHRM giving one on one counseling to every participant in the "Ultimate Warrior" job fair at Fort Dix, New Jersey. This is the first time I have ever seen Soldiers get the preparation that is necessary to find the thread of excellence that exists with each and every one of them. My partner Bob Deissig, who is the Recipient of the Silver Star, 4 Bronze Stars, 3 with V for Valor and 2 Purple Hearts for his service to our country and I know that SHRM is the missing link to bring our servicemen and women home to the work that they are entitled to. Thank you for bringing our efforts to your members' attention. Carl Blum carlblum@tipofthearrow.net John Zappe did a wonderful service for those who protect us in the night while we sleep, our Soldiers.
The impact of Sherrill Curtis and SHRM cannot be overstated.
There were 125 volunteers from SHRM giving one on one counseling to every participant in the “Ultimate Warrior” job fair at Fort Dix, New Jersey.
This is the first time I have ever seen Soldiers get the preparation that is necessary to find the thread of excellence that exists with each and every one of them.
My partner Bob Deissig, who is the Recipient of the Silver Star, 4 Bronze Stars, 3 with V for Valor and 2 Purple Hearts for his service to our country and I know that SHRM is the missing link to bring our servicemen and women home to the work that they are entitled to.
Thank you for bringing our efforts to your members’ attention.
Carl Blum
carlblum@tipofthearrow.net

]]> By: Bill Scott http://www.ere.net/2009/08/28/translating-military-service-for-the-civilian-work-world/comment-page-1/#comment-14320 Bill Scott Fri, 28 Aug 2009 16:08:39 +0000 http://www.ere.net/?p=9427#comment-14320 Thanks for this article and the efforts to translate military experience. No doubt it is key to success. For those military job seekers who cannot attend one of the seminars, here are a couple resources that might assist: “Military to Civilian: 3 Tips for Success” http://www.careerealism.com/military-to-civilian-3-tips-to-career-success/ (don’t forget to use the O*Net Resource Center page) “Top Ten Tips for post-military job search” http://www.bradley-morris.com/MilitarytoCivilianTransition.html Regards, Bill Scott Bradley-Morris, Inc. (BMI) Delivering Military-Experienced Talent to America’s Top Companies Thanks for this article and the efforts to translate military experience. No doubt it is key to success.

For those military job seekers who cannot attend one of the seminars, here are a couple resources that might assist:

“Military to Civilian: 3 Tips for Success” http://www.careerealism.com/military-to-civilian-3-tips-to-career-success/ (don’t forget to use the O*Net Resource Center page)

“Top Ten Tips for post-military job search”
http://www.bradley-morris.com/MilitarytoCivilianTransition.html

Regards,

Bill Scott
Bradley-Morris, Inc. (BMI)
Delivering Military-Experienced Talent to America’s Top Companies

]]> By: Gerry Crispin http://www.ere.net/2009/08/28/translating-military-service-for-the-civilian-work-world/comment-page-1/#comment-14319 Gerry Crispin Fri, 28 Aug 2009 15:29:01 +0000 http://www.ere.net/?p=9427#comment-14319 Thanks Angela but you are too modest. Your pioneering work with Sodexho and locally in helping this generation of troops along with the many volunteers in NJ and other states sets high standards and inspires the rest of us to do what we can. One note missing from John's great article is that a significant percentage of returning Army reservists and national guard from all states "demobilize" every month from Ft Dix. Literally thousands of troops and wounded warriors leave NJ headed home (everywhere in the US)with no job and no guidance...every month. The efforts of the local SHRM chapters and volunteers willing to coach these folks is a long term commitment and will continue. You can participate or stay connected to Sherrill's efforts with the tip of the arrow foundation(especially if you are in the area) by joining the Linkedin Group UW Network for Career Success at http://www.linkedin.com/groups?home=&gid=2154278&trk=anet_ug_hm Thanks Angela but you are too modest. Your pioneering work with Sodexho and locally in helping this generation of troops along with the many volunteers in NJ and other states sets high standards and inspires the rest of us to do what we can.

One note missing from John’s great article is that a significant percentage of returning Army reservists and national guard from all states “demobilize” every month from Ft Dix. Literally thousands of troops and wounded warriors leave NJ headed home (everywhere in the US)with no job and no guidance…every month.

The efforts of the local SHRM chapters and volunteers willing to coach these folks is a long term commitment and will continue. You can participate or stay connected to Sherrill’s efforts with the tip of the arrow foundation(especially if you are in the area) by joining the Linkedin Group UW Network for Career Success at http://www.linkedin.com/groups?home=&gid=2154278&trk=anet_ug_hm

]]> By: Angela Guidroz http://www.ere.net/2009/08/28/translating-military-service-for-the-civilian-work-world/comment-page-1/#comment-14317 Angela Guidroz Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:26:36 +0000 http://www.ere.net/?p=9427#comment-14317 Great program and support from SHRM! So good to see how HR leaders are pulling in al the pieces of what the service memeber needs. Greater Baton Rouge SHRM is having simliar partnerships with educating HR and Community leaders in support of Veterans with Disabilities. We are all a resource for our Veterans! http://bit.ly/oEYs7 Best to you all. Great program and support from SHRM! So good to see how HR leaders are pulling in al the pieces of what the service memeber needs.

Greater Baton Rouge SHRM is having simliar partnerships with educating HR and Community leaders in support of Veterans with Disabilities. We are all a resource for our Veterans! http://bit.ly/oEYs7

Best to you all.

]]> By: Ernest Feiteira http://www.ere.net/2009/08/28/translating-military-service-for-the-civilian-work-world/comment-page-1/#comment-14315 Ernest Feiteira Fri, 28 Aug 2009 13:18:57 +0000 http://www.ere.net/?p=9427#comment-14315 Great program from NJ SHRM, HR and recruiters helping those that defend our freedom. But besides that, I believe its employers and recruiters responsibility to educate military people (many of them young right out of high school) about what careers are in demand and what skills and education is needed. I spent some time in Army ROTC and learned firsthand that communication in the military is a little different, so the soft skills and interviewing advice provided will be very helpful to those military personnel. Kudos to all that were involved. Just a FYI, The Garden State (NJ) SHRM council has a conference Oct 26&27, http://conference.gscshrm.org/ Lon O’Neil, President and CEO SHRM, will be one of the keynotes. Great program from NJ SHRM, HR and recruiters helping those that defend our freedom. But besides that, I believe its employers and recruiters responsibility to educate military people (many of them young right out of high school) about what careers are in demand and what skills and education is needed. I spent some time in Army ROTC and learned firsthand that communication in the military is a little different, so the soft skills and interviewing advice provided will be very helpful to those military personnel. Kudos to all that were involved.

Just a FYI, The Garden State (NJ) SHRM council has a conference Oct 26&27, http://conference.gscshrm.org/ Lon O’Neil, President and CEO SHRM, will be one of the keynotes.

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