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		<title>By: eric shannon</title>
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		<dc:creator>eric shannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lou, some more thoughts about the death of job boards: http://www.internetinc.com/death-of-job-boards

I have to add that the handful of times I tried to use a recruiter, I specifically and directly asked each one not to use job boards. Each time, the recruiter ignored me and send me resumes from monster.com or careerbuilder.com.

-- Eric</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lou, some more thoughts about the death of job boards: <a href="http://www.internetinc.com/death-of-job-boards" rel="nofollow">http://www.internetinc.com/death-of-job-boards</a></p>
<p>I have to add that the handful of times I tried to use a recruiter, I specifically and directly asked each one not to use job boards. Each time, the recruiter ignored me and send me resumes from monster.com or careerbuilder.com.</p>
<p>&#8211; Eric</p>
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		<title>By: 2010 Predictions? In July? : AllianceQ Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>2010 Predictions? In July? : AllianceQ Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] just read a post on ERE by the esteemed Lou Adler titled. &#8220;Sourcing Trends and Predictions 2010&#8221; and as I read down the list of 10 things to come I naturally had a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mike Gionta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Gionta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All good points!  Here is the &quot;sleeper&quot; at the end of Lou&#039;s post:  

&quot;However, too many companies think this can all happen without the total involvement of the executive team and every single line manager. This has been the weakest link in the chain in the past, and my prediction for the future is that it will continue to be the problem.&quot;

... and that ladies and gentlemen is why they will continue to need us as recruiters.  We DRIVE the process and help them get out of their own way!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All good points!  Here is the &#8220;sleeper&#8221; at the end of Lou&#8217;s post:  </p>
<p>&#8220;However, too many companies think this can all happen without the total involvement of the executive team and every single line manager. This has been the weakest link in the chain in the past, and my prediction for the future is that it will continue to be the problem.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230; and that ladies and gentlemen is why they will continue to need us as recruiters.  We DRIVE the process and help them get out of their own way!</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Boorman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Boorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 17:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A thought provoking piece, though not necessarily one that I totally agree with. I should point out that I neither work or own a job board, nor am I a staunch advocate. As an experienced consultant to the recruitment industry and trainer I observe it.
My thoughts are that it is true that there is a significant decline in ads on job boards. There are a few reasons for this. Firstly, there are not the jobs and secondly recruiters have learnt to search bulging data-bases before posting. This &quot;look at the stock&quot; approach is one I have been advocating for some time. The years of &quot;post and hope&quot; are passing as recruiters become more cost conscious. Equally, there has been a greater emergence of corporate recruiters who are skilled in searching from sources such as linked in. All of this has impacted on advertising spend.
I don&#039;t however see this as the end of the job board, far from it. What I have been observing is that like many businesses, job boards have had to review and change their offering to increase value. Initiatives I have heard of recently are making the boards far more responsive, offering filtering and search capability. In the UK most notably Guardian jobs have added a sourcing team to response handle and search the cv database, others I have heard of such as jobs Ireland are offering free job postings and generating revenue from the CV database, others are charging job seekers for an enhanced service and making it free for advertisers.
The advent of social media channels such as groups, blogs, hubs, twitter etc have again impacted, but I have noticed the boards getting much better at promoting themselves through these channels, and offering greater value by initiatives such as setting up their own industry groups on Li and utilizing Twitter to increase brand exposure and promote new job postings. The staff also seem to be far more attentive, and even the biggest names are being far more attentive in their approach to pricing.
2010 I believe will see the merge of the smaller niche brands in to the larger groups, offering a much wider range of services which will be a lot more interactive and offer greater value. As the market rises, so will the traffic in job boards. For me this will be the trend for 2010, with greater service and value for recruiters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A thought provoking piece, though not necessarily one that I totally agree with. I should point out that I neither work or own a job board, nor am I a staunch advocate. As an experienced consultant to the recruitment industry and trainer I observe it.<br />
My thoughts are that it is true that there is a significant decline in ads on job boards. There are a few reasons for this. Firstly, there are not the jobs and secondly recruiters have learnt to search bulging data-bases before posting. This &#8220;look at the stock&#8221; approach is one I have been advocating for some time. The years of &#8220;post and hope&#8221; are passing as recruiters become more cost conscious. Equally, there has been a greater emergence of corporate recruiters who are skilled in searching from sources such as linked in. All of this has impacted on advertising spend.<br />
I don&#8217;t however see this as the end of the job board, far from it. What I have been observing is that like many businesses, job boards have had to review and change their offering to increase value. Initiatives I have heard of recently are making the boards far more responsive, offering filtering and search capability. In the UK most notably Guardian jobs have added a sourcing team to response handle and search the cv database, others I have heard of such as jobs Ireland are offering free job postings and generating revenue from the CV database, others are charging job seekers for an enhanced service and making it free for advertisers.<br />
The advent of social media channels such as groups, blogs, hubs, twitter etc have again impacted, but I have noticed the boards getting much better at promoting themselves through these channels, and offering greater value by initiatives such as setting up their own industry groups on Li and utilizing Twitter to increase brand exposure and promote new job postings. The staff also seem to be far more attentive, and even the biggest names are being far more attentive in their approach to pricing.<br />
2010 I believe will see the merge of the smaller niche brands in to the larger groups, offering a much wider range of services which will be a lot more interactive and offer greater value. As the market rises, so will the traffic in job boards. For me this will be the trend for 2010, with greater service and value for recruiters.</p>
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		<title>By: brian johnston</title>
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		<dc:creator>brian johnston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BLING BLING BLING BLING BLING.... Jackpot!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BLING BLING BLING BLING BLING&#8230;. Jackpot!</p>
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		<title>By: Ravi Kannan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ravi Kannan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 02:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lou,

Extremely, glad to see what you have written here in the article. We @ JobsByRef.com had similar thoughts for quite sometime now and have actually gone in and implemented a service which takes care of pretty much most of the stuff you are talking about here. The good thing is companies are already using it and are seeing the benefits. We are very passionate about bringing a change to the recruitment industry, which has been kind of static for quite sometime now, with only marginal changes happening here and there. A unified and holistic approach is needed to bring a dramatic change to this whole process of hiring. Visit and check out the site at http://www.jobsbyref.com when you have time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lou,</p>
<p>Extremely, glad to see what you have written here in the article. We @ JobsByRef.com had similar thoughts for quite sometime now and have actually gone in and implemented a service which takes care of pretty much most of the stuff you are talking about here. The good thing is companies are already using it and are seeing the benefits. We are very passionate about bringing a change to the recruitment industry, which has been kind of static for quite sometime now, with only marginal changes happening here and there. A unified and holistic approach is needed to bring a dramatic change to this whole process of hiring. Visit and check out the site at <a href="http://www.jobsbyref.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.jobsbyref.com</a> when you have time.</p>
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		<title>By: Lou Adler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lou Adler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian - the beauty of the hub &amp; spoke is that you&#039;re not offering specfic jobs, just generic opportunities. This is what a talent hub is all about - from here candidates can search for specific jobs or become a prospect in a talent pool. Since the prospects haven&#039;t applied for a specific job, there is no reporting required. When the person applies for a specific, if ever, the OFCCP reporting would kick in. 

Mike - this article was referring to corporate recruiting departments - not outside firms. Your view is covered in point 10 in a roundabout way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian &#8211; the beauty of the hub &amp; spoke is that you&#8217;re not offering specfic jobs, just generic opportunities. This is what a talent hub is all about &#8211; from here candidates can search for specific jobs or become a prospect in a talent pool. Since the prospects haven&#8217;t applied for a specific job, there is no reporting required. When the person applies for a specific, if ever, the OFCCP reporting would kick in. </p>
<p>Mike &#8211; this article was referring to corporate recruiting departments &#8211; not outside firms. Your view is covered in point 10 in a roundabout way.</p>
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		<title>By: Chernee Vitello</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chernee Vitello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lou - 

Thank you for your thoughts, and I think most of these are happening now. Social media is the way to find people, if an organization is hiring they wnat the perfect candidate so you need to go ager passive candidate&#039;s, job boards are not very successful in finding candidates you need to use other means. 

I agree that companies need to start preparing for the upturn with their hiring plans, many people are waiting out the market before they find the next role. 

Best - 
Chernee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lou &#8211; </p>
<p>Thank you for your thoughts, and I think most of these are happening now. Social media is the way to find people, if an organization is hiring they wnat the perfect candidate so you need to go ager passive candidate&#8217;s, job boards are not very successful in finding candidates you need to use other means. </p>
<p>I agree that companies need to start preparing for the upturn with their hiring plans, many people are waiting out the market before they find the next role. </p>
<p>Best &#8211;<br />
Chernee</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Kundert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Kundert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lou, 

I love your vision of the near future but I&#039;m afraid that one thing may stand in the way: the government. In particular the OFCCP and to a lesser degree the EEOC and state regulators.

In my view, the current requisition based model still exists because so many firms (especially large firms) are required to track and report on applicant activity for specific defined positions. 

The hub and spoke model is beautiful. It&#039;s dynamic, it&#039;s robust, it&#039;s scalable, and it allows firms to focus on quality. But as long as companies are required by law to track &quot;applicants&quot; to &quot;positions&quot;, then form will follow function and the requisition model will persist. And as long it persists, we will continue to see Applicant Tracking Systems rather than Candidate Relationship Management systems dominate the market and ERP&#039;s will feed into an ATS rather than a CRM. 

I&#039;d much rather see your vision of 2010 come true. Please convince me in can still happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lou, </p>
<p>I love your vision of the near future but I&#8217;m afraid that one thing may stand in the way: the government. In particular the OFCCP and to a lesser degree the EEOC and state regulators.</p>
<p>In my view, the current requisition based model still exists because so many firms (especially large firms) are required to track and report on applicant activity for specific defined positions. </p>
<p>The hub and spoke model is beautiful. It&#8217;s dynamic, it&#8217;s robust, it&#8217;s scalable, and it allows firms to focus on quality. But as long as companies are required by law to track &#8220;applicants&#8221; to &#8220;positions&#8221;, then form will follow function and the requisition model will persist. And as long it persists, we will continue to see Applicant Tracking Systems rather than Candidate Relationship Management systems dominate the market and ERP&#8217;s will feed into an ATS rather than a CRM. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d much rather see your vision of 2010 come true. Please convince me in can still happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael ("Mike") Rabin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael ("Mike") Rabin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Lou Adler:  Will appreciate your comments:

Our firm, and many others, have been operating sucessfully for years on the (to us) proven premise that no method is more effective and PRODUCTIVE in surfacing and attracting the largest quantities of the highest-quality type of candidate (the PASSIVE candidate) than TELEPHONE-based candidate I.D. (&quot;Name-Generation&quot;), followed by PROACTIVE TELEPHONE-BASED contacts with such identified prospects.  

This has been the &quot;Gold Standard&quot; for recruiting used by the top RETAINED search firms.  

We are still convinced, based on extensive ACTUAL EXPERIENCE, including &quot;side-by-side&quot; tests of Telephone-based methods versus INTERNET and Business/Social network methods...for the SAME SEARCHES, that internet methods do not even approach the level of productivity of prime candidates typical when using telephone-based methods.  

Your article and research didn&#039;t touch upon the future outlook for the Telephone-based approach to identifying and sourcing PASSIVE CANDIDATES.  I would be interested in any impressions or research findings you have addressing that issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Lou Adler:  Will appreciate your comments:</p>
<p>Our firm, and many others, have been operating sucessfully for years on the (to us) proven premise that no method is more effective and PRODUCTIVE in surfacing and attracting the largest quantities of the highest-quality type of candidate (the PASSIVE candidate) than TELEPHONE-based candidate I.D. (&#8221;Name-Generation&#8221;), followed by PROACTIVE TELEPHONE-BASED contacts with such identified prospects.  </p>
<p>This has been the &#8220;Gold Standard&#8221; for recruiting used by the top RETAINED search firms.  </p>
<p>We are still convinced, based on extensive ACTUAL EXPERIENCE, including &#8220;side-by-side&#8221; tests of Telephone-based methods versus INTERNET and Business/Social network methods&#8230;for the SAME SEARCHES, that internet methods do not even approach the level of productivity of prime candidates typical when using telephone-based methods.  </p>
<p>Your article and research didn&#8217;t touch upon the future outlook for the Telephone-based approach to identifying and sourcing PASSIVE CANDIDATES.  I would be interested in any impressions or research findings you have addressing that issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Elliott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicholas Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, 

I really think the referral method will work well as social networks are now second nature to so many people it just seems natural to ask employees to attract the right people they think are best for the job. Looking forward to hearing more!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, </p>
<p>I really think the referral method will work well as social networks are now second nature to so many people it just seems natural to ask employees to attract the right people they think are best for the job. Looking forward to hearing more!</p>
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		<title>By: Jami Lieberman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jami Lieberman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree completely. I can see it coming. It&#039;s time to get on the the train.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree completely. I can see it coming. It&#8217;s time to get on the the train.</p>
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		<title>By: John Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lou,

This is great stuff. And you are correct - not too tough to predict. 

I do get frustrated, though, that companies are not yet recognizing that the current situation with candidates is going to turnaround very quickly, as the economy improves. 

Hiring managers continue to confuse the fact that there is a high quantity of candidates with the fact that the quality candidates are still &quot;underground&quot; for the most part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lou,</p>
<p>This is great stuff. And you are correct &#8211; not too tough to predict. </p>
<p>I do get frustrated, though, that companies are not yet recognizing that the current situation with candidates is going to turnaround very quickly, as the economy improves. </p>
<p>Hiring managers continue to confuse the fact that there is a high quantity of candidates with the fact that the quality candidates are still &#8220;underground&#8221; for the most part.</p>
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		<title>By: Weekly Online Recruitment Digest 26th June 2009 &#124; Online Recruitment &#38; E-Recruitment Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weekly Online Recruitment Digest 26th June 2009 &#124; Online Recruitment &#38; E-Recruitment Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for some thought provoking predictions, check out Lou Alder on ere.net.  Are we only 12 months away from seeing the demise of job boards and changing to a more SEO / [...]</description>
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