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		<title>By: За овцете и дашните българченца &#124; Труден</title>
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		<dc:creator>За овцете и дашните българченца &#124; Труден</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Kỹ năng phỏng vấn trong quy trình tuyển dụng &#171; My AMG</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kỹ năng phỏng vấn trong quy trình tuyển dụng &#171; My AMG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Nov 2010 10:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ở đâu đó có một số các quan điểm mới: Tuyển dụng bây giờ là &#8220;Mutual Selling&#8221;. Bên nào cũng mua và bên nào cũng bán. Bên tuyển dụng tìm kiếm (mua) những người đáp ứng một số tiêu chuẩn và bán (các cơ hội làm việc, phát triển,&#8230;). Người tìm việc tìm kiếm (mua) những chỗ làm, việc làm phù hợp với những mục tiêu trong cuộc sống của họ và bán những hiểu biết, kiến thức và kỹ năng của mình. Và tôi cũng thật may mắn khi được đọc lại bài &#8220;Cắt giảm nhân sự&#8221; &#8211; Vấn đề không mới nhưng chưa bao giờ cũ của tác giả Tiến sĩ John Sullivan http://www.ere.net/2009/03/09/hr-got-caught-with-its-pants-down%E2%80%A6once-again/  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Ở đâu đó có một số các quan điểm mới: Tuyển dụng bây giờ là &#8220;Mutual Selling&#8221;. Bên nào cũng mua và bên nào cũng bán. Bên tuyển dụng tìm kiếm (mua) những người đáp ứng một số tiêu chuẩn và bán (các cơ hội làm việc, phát triển,&#8230;). Người tìm việc tìm kiếm (mua) những chỗ làm, việc làm phù hợp với những mục tiêu trong cuộc sống của họ và bán những hiểu biết, kiến thức và kỹ năng của mình. Và tôi cũng thật may mắn khi được đọc lại bài &#8220;Cắt giảm nhân sự&#8221; &#8211; Vấn đề không mới nhưng chưa bao giờ cũ của tác giả Tiến sĩ John Sullivan <a href="http://www.ere.net/2009/03/09/hr-got-caught-with-its-pants-down%E2%80%A6once-again/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ere.net/2009/03/09/hr-got-caught-with-its-pants-down%E2%80%A6once-again/</a>  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Đã bao nhiêu lần mà vẫn như mới &#171; My AMG</title>
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		<dc:creator>Đã bao nhiêu lần mà vẫn như mới &#171; My AMG</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Moving HR From Tactical to Strategic &#171; The Staffing Advisor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moving HR From Tactical to Strategic &#171; The Staffing Advisor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a profession appeared to be floundering to the point where it&#8217;s embarrassing itself.&#8221;  Where was the workforce plan?   He sagely makes the point that business is cyclical, why not plan for that?  But when I think [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a profession appeared to be floundering to the point where it&#8217;s embarrassing itself.&#8221;  Where was the workforce plan?   He sagely makes the point that business is cyclical, why not plan for that?  But when I think [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyler Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I was a little slow on the uptake.  I get it now.  Did I mention I&#039;m an HR consultant?   Here&#039;s my advice:
1. Save a boatload of money by alienating your workforce.
2. Give that money to me. 
I&#039;m open for bids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I was a little slow on the uptake.  I get it now.  Did I mention I&#8217;m an HR consultant?   Here&#8217;s my advice:<br />
1. Save a boatload of money by alienating your workforce.<br />
2. Give that money to me.<br />
I&#8217;m open for bids.</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pamela Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, Nicholas, if only 35% of HR leaders were involved in reduction decisions, how can the results of those decisions be put on HR&#039;s shoulders?

Nice pitch for your own services, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, Nicholas, if only 35% of HR leaders were involved in reduction decisions, how can the results of those decisions be put on HR&#8217;s shoulders?</p>
<p>Nice pitch for your own services, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Brenden Wright</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brenden Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Valid points and an excellent attempt to bring the topic of Workforce Planning into focus. However, I share the concern of many regarding the sweeping stereotypical statements regarding HR departments. Perhaps a more constructive approach would be more appropriate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Valid points and an excellent attempt to bring the topic of Workforce Planning into focus. However, I share the concern of many regarding the sweeping stereotypical statements regarding HR departments. Perhaps a more constructive approach would be more appropriate.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyler Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 23:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the good professor, whom I assume can no longer be fired, calls HR people a bunch of idiots and has conjured a SWAP process which coldly swaps the obsolete each quarter ignoring the hundreds of hard-to-measure variables that exist in any group of human beings.

I&#039;ll bet his family can&#039;t WAIT for him to come home each night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the good professor, whom I assume can no longer be fired, calls HR people a bunch of idiots and has conjured a SWAP process which coldly swaps the obsolete each quarter ignoring the hundreds of hard-to-measure variables that exist in any group of human beings.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll bet his family can&#8217;t WAIT for him to come home each night.</p>
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		<title>By: D Franklin</title>
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		<dc:creator>D Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 22:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always appreciated Dr. John&#039;s constructive criticism of HR.   I agree with the previous posts, however Dr. Sullivan alienated some readers. There were some good points and ideas, however the article left me wondering if Dr. Sullivan is still in touch with the private sector.  Sometimes when people cross into higher education, they lose relevance.  I hope that is not the case as I have been a fan of Dr. Sullivan for quite some time, and appreciate him giving HR slaps as needed.  This one seems out of touch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always appreciated Dr. John&#8217;s constructive criticism of HR.   I agree with the previous posts, however Dr. Sullivan alienated some readers. There were some good points and ideas, however the article left me wondering if Dr. Sullivan is still in touch with the private sector.  Sometimes when people cross into higher education, they lose relevance.  I hope that is not the case as I have been a fan of Dr. Sullivan for quite some time, and appreciate him giving HR slaps as needed.  This one seems out of touch.</p>
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		<title>By: nicholas garbis</title>
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		<dc:creator>nicholas garbis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 20:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post John!  Your rant is very well placed.  In talking with leaders in Workforce Analytics and Workforce Planning I found that the RIFs that were done at some companies represented an utter lack of basic understanding of Human Capital...and in some cases, the insights of respected practitioners were left out of the decision making.  Was it a SHRM study that found only 35% of HR leaders were involved in the reduction decisions?

REAL LIFE EXAMPLE: What kind of workforce do you get when you offer everyone a severance package? Call it the &#039;opt out&#039; strategy. ANSWER: Highly valuable (tenure, knowledge, performance) staff will leave for greener pastures AND lower performing will leave before the axe comes down -- both will be handed a bag of money as they leave. This is a recipe for mediocrity.

WORST CASE SCENARIO: An organization has no WFP in place, and no agreed-upon framework for critical roles --- when time comes to reduce staff, they cut (or incentivize the departure of) people from critical roles even as they expect them to be in greater demand in the next 1, 3, and 5 years.

So, not being strategic with WFP and analytics has a cost, and it is exacerbated in these times....pants down, indeed.

Nicholas Garbis, Sr. Consultant with Infohrm
www.infohrm.com
Infohrm – the global leader in Workforce Planning, Analytics, and Reporting for over 25 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post John!  Your rant is very well placed.  In talking with leaders in Workforce Analytics and Workforce Planning I found that the RIFs that were done at some companies represented an utter lack of basic understanding of Human Capital&#8230;and in some cases, the insights of respected practitioners were left out of the decision making.  Was it a SHRM study that found only 35% of HR leaders were involved in the reduction decisions?</p>
<p>REAL LIFE EXAMPLE: What kind of workforce do you get when you offer everyone a severance package? Call it the &#8216;opt out&#8217; strategy. ANSWER: Highly valuable (tenure, knowledge, performance) staff will leave for greener pastures AND lower performing will leave before the axe comes down &#8212; both will be handed a bag of money as they leave. This is a recipe for mediocrity.</p>
<p>WORST CASE SCENARIO: An organization has no WFP in place, and no agreed-upon framework for critical roles &#8212; when time comes to reduce staff, they cut (or incentivize the departure of) people from critical roles even as they expect them to be in greater demand in the next 1, 3, and 5 years.</p>
<p>So, not being strategic with WFP and analytics has a cost, and it is exacerbated in these times&#8230;.pants down, indeed.</p>
<p>Nicholas Garbis, Sr. Consultant with Infohrm<br />
<a href="http://www.infohrm.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.infohrm.com</a><br />
Infohrm – the global leader in Workforce Planning, Analytics, and Reporting for over 25 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Merlynn Bertini</title>
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		<dc:creator>Merlynn Bertini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 19:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree that workforce planning is an essential function of HR and what can be learned from the current economic crisis is that there is now a “benchmark” for what truly is a worst-case scenario. As a previous writer stated, the examples cited cannot be applied to companies, as they are examples of “seasonal work” and clearly are not applicable to all corporations--especially multi-national corporations.   Additionally,  I have to take issue with the statement that HR reacts “emotionally rather than logically” when pushed by CFO’s to reduce costs.  My 20 year career has ranged from start-up to multi-national corporations and I--as well as HR people I have worked with--are individual who do not want to “hear” about layoffs or who are “emotional and not logical”.   This is unfortunately a prejudice that still exists, and often used to take” pot-shots”--and I am disappointed to see it in this article.  


While I agree with some of the comments made in this article, it is irresponsible to classify the current economic situation as just another downtown.   Previous &quot;downturns&quot; have not even come close to what is now occurring.  This is not “just a downturn”, this is an economic crisis and to put this current economic situation in the same category as previous downturns is really oversimplifying the situation. Bank bailouts, auto industry bailouts, this is not something that has been seen in my career (and I doubt anyone else) have even experienced.  There have been previous articles regarding HR&#039;s lack of workforce planning, but what seems to be missing in those articles--as well as this one, is that with the current economic situation even having a &quot;worst case&quot; scenario workforce plan in place, would not have prepared companies for the current situation.  


Merlynn Bertini</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree that workforce planning is an essential function of HR and what can be learned from the current economic crisis is that there is now a “benchmark” for what truly is a worst-case scenario. As a previous writer stated, the examples cited cannot be applied to companies, as they are examples of “seasonal work” and clearly are not applicable to all corporations&#8211;especially multi-national corporations.   Additionally,  I have to take issue with the statement that HR reacts “emotionally rather than logically” when pushed by CFO’s to reduce costs.  My 20 year career has ranged from start-up to multi-national corporations and I&#8211;as well as HR people I have worked with&#8211;are individual who do not want to “hear” about layoffs or who are “emotional and not logical”.   This is unfortunately a prejudice that still exists, and often used to take” pot-shots”&#8211;and I am disappointed to see it in this article.  </p>
<p>While I agree with some of the comments made in this article, it is irresponsible to classify the current economic situation as just another downtown.   Previous &#8220;downturns&#8221; have not even come close to what is now occurring.  This is not “just a downturn”, this is an economic crisis and to put this current economic situation in the same category as previous downturns is really oversimplifying the situation. Bank bailouts, auto industry bailouts, this is not something that has been seen in my career (and I doubt anyone else) have even experienced.  There have been previous articles regarding HR&#8217;s lack of workforce planning, but what seems to be missing in those articles&#8211;as well as this one, is that with the current economic situation even having a &#8220;worst case&#8221; scenario workforce plan in place, would not have prepared companies for the current situation.  </p>
<p>Merlynn Bertini</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pamela Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 19:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting article.  I agree with all of the methodology listed in the latter portion.  Excellent information.  Too bad the beginning of the article was so antagonistic that it probably alienated a lot of the HR folks reading it before it got that far.

John, I also think you&#039;re making a very drastic generalization about HR.  Most HR departments would love to have the time and resources to do in-depth workforce planning.  What you fail to state is that HR is usually one of the last groups to get resources, the first group to get cut, and are many times forced into being strictly transactional and reactive.  

The current economic downturn is not cyclical.  It&#039;s a nose-dive that most companies could not have planned for.  The cuts go beyond normal cycles and are eating into companys&#039; core workforce - the folks that you don&#039;t plan to let go.

HR is not the only group &quot;at the table&quot;.  Workforce planning is the responsibility of the entire organization.  HR should definitely be developing the structure, but it takes everyone to make it work.  The current state of affairs should not be laid entirely on HR&#039;s doorstep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article.  I agree with all of the methodology listed in the latter portion.  Excellent information.  Too bad the beginning of the article was so antagonistic that it probably alienated a lot of the HR folks reading it before it got that far.</p>
<p>John, I also think you&#8217;re making a very drastic generalization about HR.  Most HR departments would love to have the time and resources to do in-depth workforce planning.  What you fail to state is that HR is usually one of the last groups to get resources, the first group to get cut, and are many times forced into being strictly transactional and reactive.  </p>
<p>The current economic downturn is not cyclical.  It&#8217;s a nose-dive that most companies could not have planned for.  The cuts go beyond normal cycles and are eating into companys&#8217; core workforce &#8211; the folks that you don&#8217;t plan to let go.</p>
<p>HR is not the only group &#8220;at the table&#8221;.  Workforce planning is the responsibility of the entire organization.  HR should definitely be developing the structure, but it takes everyone to make it work.  The current state of affairs should not be laid entirely on HR&#8217;s doorstep.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda Fick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda Fick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 17:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m interested in learning more about Slide&#039;s SWAP approach.  If anyone has any insight or contact information to share, I&#039;d greatly appreciate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m interested in learning more about Slide&#8217;s SWAP approach.  If anyone has any insight or contact information to share, I&#8217;d greatly appreciate it.</p>
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		<title>By: nicholas garbis</title>
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		<dc:creator>nicholas garbis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 17:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post John!  I find your rant to be very well placed.  

In talking with leaders in Workforce Analytics and Workforce Planning I found that the RIFs that were done at some companies represented an utter lack of basic understanding of Human Capital...and in some cases, the insights of respected practitioners were left out of the decision making.  Was it a SHRM study that found only 35% of HR leaders were involved in the reduction decisions?

REAL LIFE EXAMPLE: What kind of workforce do you get when you offer everyone a severance package? Call it the &#039;opt out&#039; strategy. ANSWER: Highly valuable (tenure, knowledge, performance) staff will leave for greener pastures AND lower performing will leave before the axe comes down -- both will be handed a bag of money as they leave. This is a recipe for mediocrity.

WORST CASE SCENARIO: An organization has no WFP in place, and no agreed-upon framework for critical roles --- when time comes to reduce staff, they cut (or incentivize the departure of) people from critical roles even as they expect them to be in greater demand in the next 1, 3, and 5 years.

So, not being strategic with WFP and analytics has a cost, and it is execerbated in these times....pants down, indeed.

Nicholas Garbis, Sr. Consultant with Infohrm
www.Infohrm.com
Infohrm - the global leader in Workforce Planning, Analytics, and Reporting for over 25 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post John!  I find your rant to be very well placed.  </p>
<p>In talking with leaders in Workforce Analytics and Workforce Planning I found that the RIFs that were done at some companies represented an utter lack of basic understanding of Human Capital&#8230;and in some cases, the insights of respected practitioners were left out of the decision making.  Was it a SHRM study that found only 35% of HR leaders were involved in the reduction decisions?</p>
<p>REAL LIFE EXAMPLE: What kind of workforce do you get when you offer everyone a severance package? Call it the &#8216;opt out&#8217; strategy. ANSWER: Highly valuable (tenure, knowledge, performance) staff will leave for greener pastures AND lower performing will leave before the axe comes down &#8212; both will be handed a bag of money as they leave. This is a recipe for mediocrity.</p>
<p>WORST CASE SCENARIO: An organization has no WFP in place, and no agreed-upon framework for critical roles &#8212; when time comes to reduce staff, they cut (or incentivize the departure of) people from critical roles even as they expect them to be in greater demand in the next 1, 3, and 5 years.</p>
<p>So, not being strategic with WFP and analytics has a cost, and it is execerbated in these times&#8230;.pants down, indeed.</p>
<p>Nicholas Garbis, Sr. Consultant with Infohrm<br />
<a href="http://www.Infohrm.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.Infohrm.com</a><br />
Infohrm &#8211; the global leader in Workforce Planning, Analytics, and Reporting for over 25 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Darryl Clements</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darryl Clements</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 15:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with John&#039;s premise that lack of workforce planning is a missed HR opportunity.  However I would like to point out that with the current level of business decline for many companies even effective workforce plans would be operating under or approaching the &quot;worst-case-scenario&quot; phase.  Effective plans may have softened some of the impact for employees, but it most likely would not have been much of a comforting buffer.

The real downside to not having an effective workforce plan is that right now the most common reactions and plans put in place aren&#039;t a real roadmap through the messy unknown and unpredictable.  And undoubtedly for those companies that don&#039;t have good plans in place, right now the leaders and HR minds are just trying to manage the crisis and not focused on developing plans.  Unfortunately those without plans are going to have to land this plane with whatever tools they can.  It&#039;ll be messy, but the plane has to land.  I can assure you just as a pilot or crewmember wouldn&#039;t be thinking about reviewing maintenance logs when a plane needs to land due to engine failure, business leaders and HR probably aren&#039;t trying to come up with detailed plans at this time.

Something can be done right now though, and that means developing and implementing a &quot;worst-case-scenario&quot; component of the organization&#039;s workforce plan and linking it to the Talent Management and Business Succession processes.

I&#039;m not much into the &quot;seat at the table&quot; discussions, but I certainly think performing now, under pressure, in a real business crisis, is going to be the best chance for HR to show it&#039;s leadership and value to an organization.  So if the best and chosen path through this turmoil is through downsizing, layoffs, furloughs, and the like; then HR just needs to show how these steps are a part of business viability and not simply reactions to circumstances.

My real concern is for those in HR roles who don&#039;t seek outside help if they really need it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with John&#8217;s premise that lack of workforce planning is a missed HR opportunity.  However I would like to point out that with the current level of business decline for many companies even effective workforce plans would be operating under or approaching the &#8220;worst-case-scenario&#8221; phase.  Effective plans may have softened some of the impact for employees, but it most likely would not have been much of a comforting buffer.</p>
<p>The real downside to not having an effective workforce plan is that right now the most common reactions and plans put in place aren&#8217;t a real roadmap through the messy unknown and unpredictable.  And undoubtedly for those companies that don&#8217;t have good plans in place, right now the leaders and HR minds are just trying to manage the crisis and not focused on developing plans.  Unfortunately those without plans are going to have to land this plane with whatever tools they can.  It&#8217;ll be messy, but the plane has to land.  I can assure you just as a pilot or crewmember wouldn&#8217;t be thinking about reviewing maintenance logs when a plane needs to land due to engine failure, business leaders and HR probably aren&#8217;t trying to come up with detailed plans at this time.</p>
<p>Something can be done right now though, and that means developing and implementing a &#8220;worst-case-scenario&#8221; component of the organization&#8217;s workforce plan and linking it to the Talent Management and Business Succession processes.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not much into the &#8220;seat at the table&#8221; discussions, but I certainly think performing now, under pressure, in a real business crisis, is going to be the best chance for HR to show it&#8217;s leadership and value to an organization.  So if the best and chosen path through this turmoil is through downsizing, layoffs, furloughs, and the like; then HR just needs to show how these steps are a part of business viability and not simply reactions to circumstances.</p>
<p>My real concern is for those in HR roles who don&#8217;t seek outside help if they really need it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tania Murray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tania Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 15:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this article to be an excellent one!  I have been a HR Manager and I found all of the writers examples relevant.  HR can implement most, if not all, of these strategies in focusing on an area that costs the most money and yet is the most generalized.  **Performance Reviews**.  

The previous reviewer mentioned that &quot;we are dealing with people&#039;s lives&quot; well that is true.  We are in such a litigous mind set that no one including department heads wants to call out mediocre or sub -par performers for fear of being sued.  If these individuals (sub-par or out dated skills) were given clear and direct benchmarks and follow through on goals and objectives, the end result would be that everyone knows where they stand and understands their role.  If an individual sees that their skills are outdated then they decide to update or change jobs.  If the department managers have good forecasting plans in place they can decide which individuals are head of the game give them tangible direction and develop or weed out the &quot;weakest links&quot;.

Everyone is just trying to stay below the radar to get from &quot;paycheck to paycheck&quot;.  HR including unfortunately.  The term &quot;movers and shakers&quot; doesn&#039;t exist.  No one wants to rock the boat in up times and everyone wants to hold on during the down tiimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this article to be an excellent one!  I have been a HR Manager and I found all of the writers examples relevant.  HR can implement most, if not all, of these strategies in focusing on an area that costs the most money and yet is the most generalized.  **Performance Reviews**.  </p>
<p>The previous reviewer mentioned that &#8220;we are dealing with people&#8217;s lives&#8221; well that is true.  We are in such a litigous mind set that no one including department heads wants to call out mediocre or sub -par performers for fear of being sued.  If these individuals (sub-par or out dated skills) were given clear and direct benchmarks and follow through on goals and objectives, the end result would be that everyone knows where they stand and understands their role.  If an individual sees that their skills are outdated then they decide to update or change jobs.  If the department managers have good forecasting plans in place they can decide which individuals are head of the game give them tangible direction and develop or weed out the &#8220;weakest links&#8221;.</p>
<p>Everyone is just trying to stay below the radar to get from &#8220;paycheck to paycheck&#8221;.  HR including unfortunately.  The term &#8220;movers and shakers&#8221; doesn&#8217;t exist.  No one wants to rock the boat in up times and everyone wants to hold on during the down tiimes.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Barcus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Barcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 14:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey John,

Lots of good points here in your article and I do agree with many of your suggestions.  Though I have never worked as an HR Manager or Director, I do speak with them on a regular basis, and what you have FAILED to recognize is that it is very easy for a manager to prepare for a slow down in production; and it is easy for a retail manager to reduce inventory. But those actions are FAR different than dealing with people&#039;s lives and well being. Even if HR does implement some of your strategies they are inevitably going to have to let people go in economic down turns.  People&#039;s jobs and income are at stake, so what is wrong with cutting hours, awarding buyouts, or offering furloughs to soften the blow and to give everyone a fighting chance?  Also your example of Amusement Parks &amp; Ice Cream Parlors I do not see as a valid point.  In those cases you are dealing with seasonal workers, who know they are working seasonally, and many, if not most of which are teenagers and college students without mortgages and families to support.  
Again, I agree with your suggestions, but failing to mention what it is HR REALLY has to deal with during these tough times is unfair.  I recently blogged about this topic on our blog at www.CivilEngineeringCentral.com .  The title is &quot;Human Resources-Unsung Heroes&quot; and readers can check it out at http://civilengineeringcentral.wordpress.com/2009/02/11/human-resources-heroes/ . 

Best,

Matt Barcus
www.CivilEngineeringCentral.com
building teams . engineering careers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey John,</p>
<p>Lots of good points here in your article and I do agree with many of your suggestions.  Though I have never worked as an HR Manager or Director, I do speak with them on a regular basis, and what you have FAILED to recognize is that it is very easy for a manager to prepare for a slow down in production; and it is easy for a retail manager to reduce inventory. But those actions are FAR different than dealing with people&#8217;s lives and well being. Even if HR does implement some of your strategies they are inevitably going to have to let people go in economic down turns.  People&#8217;s jobs and income are at stake, so what is wrong with cutting hours, awarding buyouts, or offering furloughs to soften the blow and to give everyone a fighting chance?  Also your example of Amusement Parks &amp; Ice Cream Parlors I do not see as a valid point.  In those cases you are dealing with seasonal workers, who know they are working seasonally, and many, if not most of which are teenagers and college students without mortgages and families to support.<br />
Again, I agree with your suggestions, but failing to mention what it is HR REALLY has to deal with during these tough times is unfair.  I recently blogged about this topic on our blog at <a href="http://www.CivilEngineeringCentral.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.CivilEngineeringCentral.com</a> .  The title is &#8220;Human Resources-Unsung Heroes&#8221; and readers can check it out at <a href="http://civilengineeringcentral.wordpress.com/2009/02/11/human-resources-heroes/" rel="nofollow">http://civilengineeringcentral.wordpress.com/2009/02/11/human-resources-heroes/</a> . </p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Matt Barcus<br />
<a href="http://www.CivilEngineeringCentral.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.CivilEngineeringCentral.com</a><br />
building teams . engineering careers</p>
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