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		<title>By: Do furloughs even work? &#171; My unions, CSUEU &#38; CFA!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Do furloughs even work? &#171; My unions, CSUEU &#38; CFA!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 20:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] question furloughs. Dr. John Sullivan in the employee-recruiting forum ERE.net wrote the post Employee Furloughs Can Be a Bad Alternative to Layoffs. He said, &#8220;While the tool may be popular and widely used, that doesn’t make it effective or [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Think Strategically About Your Workforce &#171; Infohrm&#8217;s Weblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Think Strategically About Your Workforce &#171; Infohrm&#8217;s Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 22:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] recently read Dr. John Sullivan’s article entitled: “Employee Furloughs Can Be a Bad Alternative to Layoffs” on ERE.net, and was pleased to see Dr. Sullivan highlight workforce planning as an effective [...]</description>
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		<title>By: HRM Today - Blog Archive &#187; When Anxiety Over Layoffs Won’t Lay Off</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 18:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] us, AP, but we all know that the jobless numbers suck. And as much as companies may be trying to delay, avoid or figure out the right way to implement layoffs, it doesn’t seem to stop them from happening. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] us, AP, but we all know that the jobless numbers suck. And as much as companies may be trying to delay, avoid or figure out the right way to implement layoffs, it doesn’t seem to stop them from happening. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: A Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Dr. Sullivan brings up some good points but I think many of them only apply to very specific situations.  Running through his list:

1.  Sure, if you have to hire temporary replacement workers to cover your furloughed staff then you won&#039;t save much money - that seems pretty obvious.  And if a furlough is going to allow your construction site to get ransacked you might want to avoid that.

2.  I think many companies are considering furloughs because their workload has decreased.  Maybe they anticipate it increasing again in the future and the cost of laying people off and then hiring new people is greater than a short furlough.  Either way, if the workload would pile up as a result of a furlough then doing layoffs will have the same impact - more work for the people remaining.

3.  This is a pretty good and a tough one to figure out.  While top performers are important, many businesses rely on the second tier performers as well and if you alienate all of them you could get in trouble.

4.  For many organizations layoffs will cause the same turmoil as a furlough.  Just like with a furlough, no company is going to promise that there won&#039;t be more layoffs.

5.  Is the author saying furloughs never work?  I&#039;m sure there are plenty of times when furloughs are followed by layoffs - just like many times layoffs are followed by more layoffs - but I don&#039;t see what that invalidates the idea of a furlough.

6.  Once again, I&#039;m not sure how layoffs don&#039;t have the same (or worse) impact on being &quot;fully staffed&quot;.  If you do layoffs you&#039;re permanently not fully staffed.  Obviously, there are some businesses where a company-wide furlough for any duration would have a huge impact on customers - I assume those companies would do staggered furloughs or consider other options.  I don&#039;t think a customer would decide to take their business to a company that did layoffs instead of one that did a furlough.

7.  I think this is the same as point #2 and has the same issues - if you do layoffs your best people will have that much more on their plate, which would negatively impact product quality.

8.  Again, I think doing layoffs would give the remaining staff as much uncertainty as a furlough would.  If you do layoffs these innovators will be facing a larger workload with the same number of hours - is that better than the same workload with fewer hours?

9.  Seriously, I don&#039;t understand why a furlough is a short-term solution but layoffs are a long-term solution.  Both situations freak out the employees.

10.  Same thing - would people refer candidates to a company that just did a round or two of layoffs?  Many places, when they do layoffs, target the more recent hires - seems like a scarier situation than a furlough.  No doubt, in either case you&#039;re going to run into problems with recruiting but I really don&#039;t see why a furlough would be worse than layoffs.

11.  This seems silly - you wouldn&#039;t implement a furlough program that then forced you to hire expensive consultants to cover your missing employees.  Does anyone do that?  Of course that&#039;s a bad idea.  Also, won&#039;t teamwork suffer when you lay off half the team?  Seems like you&#039;re better off working on the project knowing that your teammates will be back soon to help out.

12.  I don&#039;t know much about this one.

13.  I think if your business has complex scheduling needs then you would need to implement a furlough program that can accommodate those needs.

The example the author gives is entertaining but does nothing to support his position.  First of all, if the team fired the third receiver they would have been without 6 catches and 71 yards in the game.  Without the third string QB their preparation for the game would have suffered.  Wouldn&#039;t they have been better off doing a one-day furlough of the entire team?  Why can&#039;t a furlough program be tailored to the organization?

I guess my main point is that there are certainly many drawbacks to doing a furlough and I&#039;m sure there are many situations where a round of layoffs is a better plan.  However, I don&#039;t think you can make the blanket statement that layoffs are always the better approach.

I think there&#039;s a lot of value in keeping a good team together.  If your team is made up of similarly performing members (i.e. not a couple of super stars and a handful of duds) then sharing the pain with the hopes of having the team intact when business picks up again seems like a valid approach to take.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Dr. Sullivan brings up some good points but I think many of them only apply to very specific situations.  Running through his list:</p>
<p>1.  Sure, if you have to hire temporary replacement workers to cover your furloughed staff then you won&#8217;t save much money &#8211; that seems pretty obvious.  And if a furlough is going to allow your construction site to get ransacked you might want to avoid that.</p>
<p>2.  I think many companies are considering furloughs because their workload has decreased.  Maybe they anticipate it increasing again in the future and the cost of laying people off and then hiring new people is greater than a short furlough.  Either way, if the workload would pile up as a result of a furlough then doing layoffs will have the same impact &#8211; more work for the people remaining.</p>
<p>3.  This is a pretty good and a tough one to figure out.  While top performers are important, many businesses rely on the second tier performers as well and if you alienate all of them you could get in trouble.</p>
<p>4.  For many organizations layoffs will cause the same turmoil as a furlough.  Just like with a furlough, no company is going to promise that there won&#8217;t be more layoffs.</p>
<p>5.  Is the author saying furloughs never work?  I&#8217;m sure there are plenty of times when furloughs are followed by layoffs &#8211; just like many times layoffs are followed by more layoffs &#8211; but I don&#8217;t see what that invalidates the idea of a furlough.</p>
<p>6.  Once again, I&#8217;m not sure how layoffs don&#8217;t have the same (or worse) impact on being &#8220;fully staffed&#8221;.  If you do layoffs you&#8217;re permanently not fully staffed.  Obviously, there are some businesses where a company-wide furlough for any duration would have a huge impact on customers &#8211; I assume those companies would do staggered furloughs or consider other options.  I don&#8217;t think a customer would decide to take their business to a company that did layoffs instead of one that did a furlough.</p>
<p>7.  I think this is the same as point #2 and has the same issues &#8211; if you do layoffs your best people will have that much more on their plate, which would negatively impact product quality.</p>
<p>8.  Again, I think doing layoffs would give the remaining staff as much uncertainty as a furlough would.  If you do layoffs these innovators will be facing a larger workload with the same number of hours &#8211; is that better than the same workload with fewer hours?</p>
<p>9.  Seriously, I don&#8217;t understand why a furlough is a short-term solution but layoffs are a long-term solution.  Both situations freak out the employees.</p>
<p>10.  Same thing &#8211; would people refer candidates to a company that just did a round or two of layoffs?  Many places, when they do layoffs, target the more recent hires &#8211; seems like a scarier situation than a furlough.  No doubt, in either case you&#8217;re going to run into problems with recruiting but I really don&#8217;t see why a furlough would be worse than layoffs.</p>
<p>11.  This seems silly &#8211; you wouldn&#8217;t implement a furlough program that then forced you to hire expensive consultants to cover your missing employees.  Does anyone do that?  Of course that&#8217;s a bad idea.  Also, won&#8217;t teamwork suffer when you lay off half the team?  Seems like you&#8217;re better off working on the project knowing that your teammates will be back soon to help out.</p>
<p>12.  I don&#8217;t know much about this one.</p>
<p>13.  I think if your business has complex scheduling needs then you would need to implement a furlough program that can accommodate those needs.</p>
<p>The example the author gives is entertaining but does nothing to support his position.  First of all, if the team fired the third receiver they would have been without 6 catches and 71 yards in the game.  Without the third string QB their preparation for the game would have suffered.  Wouldn&#8217;t they have been better off doing a one-day furlough of the entire team?  Why can&#8217;t a furlough program be tailored to the organization?</p>
<p>I guess my main point is that there are certainly many drawbacks to doing a furlough and I&#8217;m sure there are many situations where a round of layoffs is a better plan.  However, I don&#8217;t think you can make the blanket statement that layoffs are always the better approach.</p>
<p>I think there&#8217;s a lot of value in keeping a good team together.  If your team is made up of similarly performing members (i.e. not a couple of super stars and a handful of duds) then sharing the pain with the hopes of having the team intact when business picks up again seems like a valid approach to take.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Slevin</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2009/02/09/employee-furloughs-can-be-a-bad-alternative-to-layoffs/comment-page-1/#comment-10523</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Slevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 20:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there any reason why there are blog links with no comments on them?  I understand wanting to link to an article to get your thoughts out there, why not have the blog quoted or something or the whole article if it is your blog with a link?  Joe Slevin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there any reason why there are blog links with no comments on them?  I understand wanting to link to an article to get your thoughts out there, why not have the blog quoted or something or the whole article if it is your blog with a link?  Joe Slevin</p>
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		<title>By: BlogERP Links 02/10/2009 &#171; Competitive intelligence on e-recruitment SaaS Vendors</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlogERP Links 02/10/2009 &#171; Competitive intelligence on e-recruitment SaaS Vendors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 14:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Employee Furloughs Can Be a Bad Alternative to Layoffs : ERE.net [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sherman Gandee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sherman Gandee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the first time I have ever responded to any article online but I have grown tired of the authors constant HR bashing in his articles I have read. I think he has been away from the front lines too long and it is easy to take pot shots from the ivory tower! What triggered this response was comments like; managers lack of courage to make tough decisions, their unwillingness to look someone in the eye, they don&#039;t do manpower planning. 
I would venture to say that many if not most of us HR people have been through countless downsizings, terminations and the like where we personally had to deliver the bad news! However, when you have already cut your organization to the bone where everyone left is an excellent performer then you do what you have to do to survive. If someone feels punished, it could one of 3 problems; you have not looked them in the eye and explained the seriousness of the situation, they could care less about their co-workers, or they could care less about the company. Temporary furloughs have worked well for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the first time I have ever responded to any article online but I have grown tired of the authors constant HR bashing in his articles I have read. I think he has been away from the front lines too long and it is easy to take pot shots from the ivory tower! What triggered this response was comments like; managers lack of courage to make tough decisions, their unwillingness to look someone in the eye, they don&#8217;t do manpower planning.<br />
I would venture to say that many if not most of us HR people have been through countless downsizings, terminations and the like where we personally had to deliver the bad news! However, when you have already cut your organization to the bone where everyone left is an excellent performer then you do what you have to do to survive. If someone feels punished, it could one of 3 problems; you have not looked them in the eye and explained the seriousness of the situation, they could care less about their co-workers, or they could care less about the company. Temporary furloughs have worked well for us.</p>
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		<title>By: Links 02/10/2009</title>
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		<dc:creator>Links 02/10/2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 07:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Merlynn Bertini</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2009/02/09/employee-furloughs-can-be-a-bad-alternative-to-layoffs/comment-page-1/#comment-10475</link>
		<dc:creator>Merlynn Bertini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 00:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to diagree with most of what was said in this article--given the present economic conditions.   Does anyone really believe there are fewer angry customers after a layoff?  Given the current economic conditions, I find it hard to believe that furloughs are going to put employees into a &quot;job search mode&quot; and a layoff will make employees want to stay? While I am a very strong proponent of workforce planning, the article takes a very narrow view of the current economy.  

Additionally, what was not addressed is how top performers respond when a lay-off/RIF occurs--and that is a reduction in productivity.  There was a very good ERE article last December which addressed the issues of decreased productivity and confirmed what many HR people already knew--that employee productivity declines after a layoff.

Merlynn Bertini</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to diagree with most of what was said in this article&#8211;given the present economic conditions.   Does anyone really believe there are fewer angry customers after a layoff?  Given the current economic conditions, I find it hard to believe that furloughs are going to put employees into a &#8220;job search mode&#8221; and a layoff will make employees want to stay? While I am a very strong proponent of workforce planning, the article takes a very narrow view of the current economy.  </p>
<p>Additionally, what was not addressed is how top performers respond when a lay-off/RIF occurs&#8211;and that is a reduction in productivity.  There was a very good ERE article last December which addressed the issues of decreased productivity and confirmed what many HR people already knew&#8211;that employee productivity declines after a layoff.</p>
<p>Merlynn Bertini</p>
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		<title>By: James Huether</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Huether</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 23:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Normally I like your comments, and with this issue, I understand you make many good points. However I think one thing you miss is that we are in a very unique situation these days. Once a person gets laid off, they won&#039;t be hired back, and as one person stated, lay-offs usually are done these days more by age of the employee than anything else. Furloughs allow temporarily for less people to lose their jobs, and allow for a bit of sharing the pain. I agree that in the long term it may not be a good solution, but currently, I think it is a humane way to keep people working. Let everyone make a little less income, so more of us will at least have a job and not have to go into the ever-growing pool of people who are starting to lose everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Normally I like your comments, and with this issue, I understand you make many good points. However I think one thing you miss is that we are in a very unique situation these days. Once a person gets laid off, they won&#8217;t be hired back, and as one person stated, lay-offs usually are done these days more by age of the employee than anything else. Furloughs allow temporarily for less people to lose their jobs, and allow for a bit of sharing the pain. I agree that in the long term it may not be a good solution, but currently, I think it is a humane way to keep people working. Let everyone make a little less income, so more of us will at least have a job and not have to go into the ever-growing pool of people who are starting to lose everything.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Delaney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Delaney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 22:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rephrased...

Here the author shares an oft sited Machiavellian premise that sharing the burden of a tough economic climate through “temporary furloughs” is not fair to &quot;top performers&quot; and that management is simply too spineless to cut dead wood, and cut deeply.

His main statement is that “the key to any effective salary-savings program is to target the individuals who add little value compared to their salary.”

But, there are countless reasons Top Performers ARE sacrificed in every downturn, and cause for concern if you find yourself still on the corporate payroll; wheather furloughed or not.   In either case, at the end of the day you may easily find that you have been “left behind.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rephrased&#8230;</p>
<p>Here the author shares an oft sited Machiavellian premise that sharing the burden of a tough economic climate through “temporary furloughs” is not fair to &#8220;top performers&#8221; and that management is simply too spineless to cut dead wood, and cut deeply.</p>
<p>His main statement is that “the key to any effective salary-savings program is to target the individuals who add little value compared to their salary.”</p>
<p>But, there are countless reasons Top Performers ARE sacrificed in every downturn, and cause for concern if you find yourself still on the corporate payroll; wheather furloughed or not.   In either case, at the end of the day you may easily find that you have been “left behind.”</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Delaney</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2009/02/09/employee-furloughs-can-be-a-bad-alternative-to-layoffs/comment-page-1/#comment-10471</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Delaney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 22:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here the author states an oft sited Machiavellian position on the premise here is that sharing the burden of a tough economic climate through “temporary furloughs” is not fair to &quot;top performers&quot; and that management is simply too spineless to cut dead wood, and cut deeply.

His main statement is that “the key to any effective salary-savings program is to target the individuals who add little value compared to their salary.”

But, there are countless reasons Top Performers ARE sacrificed in every downturn; and cause for concern if you find yourself still on the corporate payroll.   

At the end of the day you may find that you have in fact been “left behind.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here the author states an oft sited Machiavellian position on the premise here is that sharing the burden of a tough economic climate through “temporary furloughs” is not fair to &#8220;top performers&#8221; and that management is simply too spineless to cut dead wood, and cut deeply.</p>
<p>His main statement is that “the key to any effective salary-savings program is to target the individuals who add little value compared to their salary.”</p>
<p>But, there are countless reasons Top Performers ARE sacrificed in every downturn; and cause for concern if you find yourself still on the corporate payroll.   </p>
<p>At the end of the day you may find that you have in fact been “left behind.”</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Slevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph Slevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 21:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, thanks for the great in depth article on furloughing employees, especially your emphasis of the same by the top organizations.  

I would like to add, though, that these are supposed to be cost saving measures across the board.  I would imagine the CFOs just love the idea that the major liability of vacation time is reduced greatly across the whole company, since employees would most likely be required to take vacation time.  

Additionally, I would imagine that over the last few years these companies have cut through re-engineering, right sizing and related projects.  The high performers in these companies already are stretched beyond what was considered normal work.  Eliminating the under performers should be limited to those whose work would not negatively effect the work and performance of those higher performers.  

Basically, companies like Toyota and Cisco, who have eliminated non performing units, may be hoping that things turn around for the whole organization that is currently underperforming across the board.  

Where furloughing really hurts is in customer service and repair related services.  Additionally, there must be a law of diminishing returns.  Just like companies that cut costs to manufacture products in much lower cost environments.  Although you can hire 10 or more possibly there than in the Western countries, more often than not, those 10 can never afford to buy the product they are manufacturing, so, here we have a lose/lose scenario.

I think the above companies have to have considered they are close to the bone and have reduced in the past to what they feel are optimum levels.  Any more could create even more work force problems.

Joe Slevin
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, thanks for the great in depth article on furloughing employees, especially your emphasis of the same by the top organizations.  </p>
<p>I would like to add, though, that these are supposed to be cost saving measures across the board.  I would imagine the CFOs just love the idea that the major liability of vacation time is reduced greatly across the whole company, since employees would most likely be required to take vacation time.  </p>
<p>Additionally, I would imagine that over the last few years these companies have cut through re-engineering, right sizing and related projects.  The high performers in these companies already are stretched beyond what was considered normal work.  Eliminating the under performers should be limited to those whose work would not negatively effect the work and performance of those higher performers.  </p>
<p>Basically, companies like Toyota and Cisco, who have eliminated non performing units, may be hoping that things turn around for the whole organization that is currently underperforming across the board.  </p>
<p>Where furloughing really hurts is in customer service and repair related services.  Additionally, there must be a law of diminishing returns.  Just like companies that cut costs to manufacture products in much lower cost environments.  Although you can hire 10 or more possibly there than in the Western countries, more often than not, those 10 can never afford to buy the product they are manufacturing, so, here we have a lose/lose scenario.</p>
<p>I think the above companies have to have considered they are close to the bone and have reduced in the past to what they feel are optimum levels.  Any more could create even more work force problems.</p>
<p>Joe Slevin<br />
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		<title>By: Mary Lorenz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Lorenz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 20:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish you&#039;d offer more examples of these ineffective cost-reduction programs and the &quot;silliest of reasons&quot; managers are choosing furloughs. No one thinks their reasoning behind tough decisions is silly until someone points it out.  Perhaps if you could offer more concrete examples of these ineffective cost-reduction programs (and why they are so), it might stimulate managers to recognize the faults within their own orgranizations, reevaluate their programs and implement better workforce planning.

One more note: For all the literature out there about the ultimate costs of (and alternatives to) layoffs, cuts and furloughs - businesses continue to do these things in droves. What gives? Is it that people seems like many either refuse to listen? Refuse to believe it? Or are they simply taking a &quot;we&#039;ll cross that bridge when we get there&quot; approach?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish you&#8217;d offer more examples of these ineffective cost-reduction programs and the &#8220;silliest of reasons&#8221; managers are choosing furloughs. No one thinks their reasoning behind tough decisions is silly until someone points it out.  Perhaps if you could offer more concrete examples of these ineffective cost-reduction programs (and why they are so), it might stimulate managers to recognize the faults within their own orgranizations, reevaluate their programs and implement better workforce planning.</p>
<p>One more note: For all the literature out there about the ultimate costs of (and alternatives to) layoffs, cuts and furloughs &#8211; businesses continue to do these things in droves. What gives? Is it that people seems like many either refuse to listen? Refuse to believe it? Or are they simply taking a &#8220;we&#8217;ll cross that bridge when we get there&#8221; approach?</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Baldwin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan Baldwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 19:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well reasoned argument.  Two big challenges to implementing this sound approach for those of us in the public sector:

1) It usually takes a small novel reviewed by an entire legal team to get someone fired.

2) Order of layoff is often determined by seniority, not job performance.

One could easily argue that what is really required in many public organizations is system-wide reform.  The efforts we&#039;ve seen to try to do that lately have met with mixed success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well reasoned argument.  Two big challenges to implementing this sound approach for those of us in the public sector:</p>
<p>1) It usually takes a small novel reviewed by an entire legal team to get someone fired.</p>
<p>2) Order of layoff is often determined by seniority, not job performance.</p>
<p>One could easily argue that what is really required in many public organizations is system-wide reform.  The efforts we&#8217;ve seen to try to do that lately have met with mixed success.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Gilmyers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Gilmyers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 17:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In today’s challenging economic environment I’ve talked to many managers who insist that now is not the time for workforce planning.  Things are happening too quickly, they insist, to do anymore than simply try to stay ahead of the next round of bad news.  In fact, as Dr. Sullivan indicates, nothing could be further from the truth.  Obviously, those organizations that already have strong workforce planning processes have a distinct advantage now, having already identified those core jobs and skill-sets necessary to succeed.  This allows them to ensure that decisions around layoffs address the business cycle in the short-term while giving due consideration to the strategic objectives of the firm in the long-term.  

That said, even companies that have done little or no workforce planning will be well served in using the current economic downturn as an opportunity to identify which organizational roles will be fundamental to the growth of the business when the economy ultimately begins to recover, or even if it doesn’t. Using workforce planning techniques to match a company’s demand for employees with projected supply, and developing proactive strategies to address any gaps is a critical responsibility of HR in bad, as well as good, times.  Doing so enables firms to make informed and strategic decisions when forced to cut staff, as opposed to taking the proverbial “peanut butter” approach that cuts not just fat from the organization, but muscle and bone as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In today’s challenging economic environment I’ve talked to many managers who insist that now is not the time for workforce planning.  Things are happening too quickly, they insist, to do anymore than simply try to stay ahead of the next round of bad news.  In fact, as Dr. Sullivan indicates, nothing could be further from the truth.  Obviously, those organizations that already have strong workforce planning processes have a distinct advantage now, having already identified those core jobs and skill-sets necessary to succeed.  This allows them to ensure that decisions around layoffs address the business cycle in the short-term while giving due consideration to the strategic objectives of the firm in the long-term.  </p>
<p>That said, even companies that have done little or no workforce planning will be well served in using the current economic downturn as an opportunity to identify which organizational roles will be fundamental to the growth of the business when the economy ultimately begins to recover, or even if it doesn’t. Using workforce planning techniques to match a company’s demand for employees with projected supply, and developing proactive strategies to address any gaps is a critical responsibility of HR in bad, as well as good, times.  Doing so enables firms to make informed and strategic decisions when forced to cut staff, as opposed to taking the proverbial “peanut butter” approach that cuts not just fat from the organization, but muscle and bone as well.</p>
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