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		<title>By: Jim Schnyder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Schnyder</dc:creator>
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		<description>As always.  Great insight!</description>
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		<title>By: Recruiting Lessons From the Super Bowl &#171; Hiring Insights</title>
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		<description>[...] an article published online at ERE, John Sullivan lists 10 specific recruiting lessons that can be learned from the Super Bowl.  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: 090203 Techie Links &#124; johnsumser.com: Recruiting News and Views</title>
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		<title>By: Maya Skolnik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maya Skolnik</dc:creator>
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		<description>Excellent post game analysis.</description>
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		<title>By: Keith Halperin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith Halperin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 21:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A variety of comments:

First of all, I like sports analogies. I think the football analogy is particularly appropriate for a couple of reasons:

1)Professional football team franchises are highly mercenary in their dealings with their host communities, often requiring substantial subsidies through the construction of new stadiums with partial public funding which *may not often show overall economic benefits to the host communities. I think this is a valuable lesson for employees/vendors when we have the upper hand.

2) As previously mentioned in a comment, there are a few hundred professional NFL players and they get very well paid, and I think (most of them) are worth it. If you are quite good but not NFL quality, you can not expect to make $100k/yr playing non-NFL football in the US. If you do world-class sourcing/recruiting, you are performing a very high-level service and are “entitled” by the market to a world-class compensation. If you are not in that class or do not have something special to offer, you will be competing with folks who get much less for the quality work they do. IMHO, recruiting will become the realm of a relatively small number of highly-compensated elite recruiters, who will have “sticky” skills that can’t be easily eliminated, automated, or outsourced. I do not see much future for mid-level Western recruiters and sourcers who do quality work for a decent, middle-class income.

As Martin S. said: I also recommend the Gladwell article. Gladwell is interesting and an easy read. I also like him because he seems to be making very substantial speaking fees telling “fat cat” types that some of their traditional wisdom is wrong. Finally, before he got famous, he actually answered one of my emails! (And “No”- he didn’t say “cease and desist,” either….)

Cheers,

Keith “Can’t Think of a Slogan Today” Halperin
keithsrj@sbcglobal.net 415.586.8265


*http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/04/nyregion/04stadiums.htmlhttp://www.washington.edu/alumni/columns/june97/game1.html 
http://www.cato.org/pubs/regulation/regv23n2/coates.pdf.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A variety of comments:</p>
<p>First of all, I like sports analogies. I think the football analogy is particularly appropriate for a couple of reasons:</p>
<p>1)Professional football team franchises are highly mercenary in their dealings with their host communities, often requiring substantial subsidies through the construction of new stadiums with partial public funding which *may not often show overall economic benefits to the host communities. I think this is a valuable lesson for employees/vendors when we have the upper hand.</p>
<p>2) As previously mentioned in a comment, there are a few hundred professional NFL players and they get very well paid, and I think (most of them) are worth it. If you are quite good but not NFL quality, you can not expect to make $100k/yr playing non-NFL football in the US. If you do world-class sourcing/recruiting, you are performing a very high-level service and are “entitled” by the market to a world-class compensation. If you are not in that class or do not have something special to offer, you will be competing with folks who get much less for the quality work they do. IMHO, recruiting will become the realm of a relatively small number of highly-compensated elite recruiters, who will have “sticky” skills that can’t be easily eliminated, automated, or outsourced. I do not see much future for mid-level Western recruiters and sourcers who do quality work for a decent, middle-class income.</p>
<p>As Martin S. said: I also recommend the Gladwell article. Gladwell is interesting and an easy read. I also like him because he seems to be making very substantial speaking fees telling “fat cat” types that some of their traditional wisdom is wrong. Finally, before he got famous, he actually answered one of my emails! (And “No”- he didn’t say “cease and desist,” either….)</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Keith “Can’t Think of a Slogan Today” Halperin<br />
<a href="mailto:keithsrj@sbcglobal.net">keithsrj@sbcglobal.net</a> 415.586.8265</p>
<p>*http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/04/nyregion/04stadiums.htmlhttp://www.washington.edu/alumni/columns/june97/game1.html<br />
<a href="http://www.cato.org/pubs/regulation/regv23n2/coates.pdf." rel="nofollow">http://www.cato.org/pubs/regulation/regv23n2/coates.pdf.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chad Pinkston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad Pinkston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 20:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, enjoyed the article. Not only is there much to be learned from the Super Bowl teams but much that can be learned from athletes in general(exclude pac man jones:). As someone who works with both collegiate &amp; professional athletes as they make the transition into life after sports I have (as have numerous organizations) found that the skills &amp; attributes acquired during the course of athletic competition are directly transferable to the workforce &amp; these former athletes create a positive impact on their &quot;new team&quot;. Follow the link below for these athlete attributes: 

http://www.thecorporateplaybook.com/why_athletes.php

Best,

Chad</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, enjoyed the article. Not only is there much to be learned from the Super Bowl teams but much that can be learned from athletes in general(exclude pac man jones:). As someone who works with both collegiate &amp; professional athletes as they make the transition into life after sports I have (as have numerous organizations) found that the skills &amp; attributes acquired during the course of athletic competition are directly transferable to the workforce &amp; these former athletes create a positive impact on their &#8220;new team&#8221;. Follow the link below for these athlete attributes: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.thecorporateplaybook.com/why_athletes.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.thecorporateplaybook.com/why_athletes.php</a></p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Chad</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Lorenz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Lorenz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 19:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed that this is a great article - I think the Super Bowl analogy works from a management/employee retention perspective as well.  In fact, I recently wrote a similar post about what we can learn from Super Bowl coaches Tomlin and Whisenhunt: http://thehiringsite.careerbuilder.com/2009/01/21/management-lessons-from-super-bowl-contenders/  Would love hear your thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed that this is a great article &#8211; I think the Super Bowl analogy works from a management/employee retention perspective as well.  In fact, I recently wrote a similar post about what we can learn from Super Bowl coaches Tomlin and Whisenhunt: <a href="http://thehiringsite.careerbuilder.com/2009/01/21/management-lessons-from-super-bowl-contenders/" rel="nofollow">http://thehiringsite.careerbuilder.com/2009/01/21/management-lessons-from-super-bowl-contenders/</a>  Would love hear your thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Snyder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Snyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 18:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh Letourneau turned me on to a very interesting article by Malcolm Gladwell dealing with the differences between the NFL and the College game with the main focus on hiring and selection issues: 

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/12/15/081215fa_fact_gladwell?currentPage=all</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh Letourneau turned me on to a very interesting article by Malcolm Gladwell dealing with the differences between the NFL and the College game with the main focus on hiring and selection issues: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/12/15/081215fa_fact_gladwell?currentPage=all" rel="nofollow">http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/12/15/081215fa_fact_gladwell?currentPage=all</a></p>
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		<title>By: Matt Salome</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Salome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 17:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good analogy to the game of football, but I must interject as I saw a glaring error in the opening of the article that must be corrected.  &quot;Not a single one of these players former university teams made it into the Associated Press Top 25 rankings this year.&quot;  If you mean end of year, then that is correct but both Pittsburgh and North Carolina were ranked for a majority of the year (maybe not in the final poll at the end of the year), and the school&#039;s although not known to those outside football, are large schools who generally have strong football recruiting classes.  The reason for the difference between those who are strong in college and those in the NFL, is because they are essentially very different games (this can further be compared to basketball, where many top players in college don&#039;t translate well into the NBA; as they are different games and look for some different characteristics in their players).  Being an HR professional I actually do enjoy the parallels between sports and recruiting.  Also, the player that was cited as &quot;Efrain James&quot; and who was cited as &quot;having a mediocre season&quot; did not actually get a chance during the year to shine, getting very few reps all year until the end of the year. His correct name is actually Edgerrin James and he is a future hall of fame towards the end of his career.  A challenge we sometimes face (like the NFL) is that they (Hiring teams) don&#039;t give people a shot who may go to other teams and situations and become superstars.  It&#039;s tough for people to produce and shine without at least given an opportunity.  So many times a hiring manager will say &quot;They don&#039;t have this or that&quot; and that is the end of that candidate (internal or external) being considered.  I feel sometimes their are great candidates who are not given a shot because they may have done x and y but don&#039;t have z.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good analogy to the game of football, but I must interject as I saw a glaring error in the opening of the article that must be corrected.  &#8220;Not a single one of these players former university teams made it into the Associated Press Top 25 rankings this year.&#8221;  If you mean end of year, then that is correct but both Pittsburgh and North Carolina were ranked for a majority of the year (maybe not in the final poll at the end of the year), and the school&#8217;s although not known to those outside football, are large schools who generally have strong football recruiting classes.  The reason for the difference between those who are strong in college and those in the NFL, is because they are essentially very different games (this can further be compared to basketball, where many top players in college don&#8217;t translate well into the NBA; as they are different games and look for some different characteristics in their players).  Being an HR professional I actually do enjoy the parallels between sports and recruiting.  Also, the player that was cited as &#8220;Efrain James&#8221; and who was cited as &#8220;having a mediocre season&#8221; did not actually get a chance during the year to shine, getting very few reps all year until the end of the year. His correct name is actually Edgerrin James and he is a future hall of fame towards the end of his career.  A challenge we sometimes face (like the NFL) is that they (Hiring teams) don&#8217;t give people a shot who may go to other teams and situations and become superstars.  It&#8217;s tough for people to produce and shine without at least given an opportunity.  So many times a hiring manager will say &#8220;They don&#8217;t have this or that&#8221; and that is the end of that candidate (internal or external) being considered.  I feel sometimes their are great candidates who are not given a shot because they may have done x and y but don&#8217;t have z.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrice Funderburg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrice Funderburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 16:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love this! Great article, John!</description>
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		<title>By: Joshua Letourneau</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua Letourneau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 16:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, this is your best work I&#039;ve seen in a very, very, long time.  I say that for one big reason: Your article here focuses on questioning traditional conventions.

So many Talent Acquisition Pros simply &#039;follow the sheep&#039;, blindly adhering to mindsets and practices that worked during the Industrial Revolution, however are meaningless today.

The only additions I&#039;d make to the list are the following:

1. It&#039;s never too late to turn performance around.  The Cardinals were 9-7 coming into the playoffs . . . and only got in because they were Division Winners of the weakest Division in the NFL.  Several teams with better records did not get in because they did not win their division and didn&#039;t have a good enough record to earn a wildcard birth.

2. The Arizona Cardinals now can justify a &#039;performance culture&#039; because they got to the Big Dance.  The Cardinals were 9-7 this year, 8-8 in 2007, 5-11 in 2006, and 5-11 in 2005.  That&#039;s a record of 27-37, hardly a &#039;performance culture&#039; . . . but the playoffs this year was a defining moment.  It&#039;s never too late to turn the culture around and leverage espirit de corps.

3. Know your strengths . . . and stick to them.  The Superbowl is not the time to change your corporate identity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, this is your best work I&#8217;ve seen in a very, very, long time.  I say that for one big reason: Your article here focuses on questioning traditional conventions.</p>
<p>So many Talent Acquisition Pros simply &#8216;follow the sheep&#8217;, blindly adhering to mindsets and practices that worked during the Industrial Revolution, however are meaningless today.</p>
<p>The only additions I&#8217;d make to the list are the following:</p>
<p>1. It&#8217;s never too late to turn performance around.  The Cardinals were 9-7 coming into the playoffs . . . and only got in because they were Division Winners of the weakest Division in the NFL.  Several teams with better records did not get in because they did not win their division and didn&#8217;t have a good enough record to earn a wildcard birth.</p>
<p>2. The Arizona Cardinals now can justify a &#8216;performance culture&#8217; because they got to the Big Dance.  The Cardinals were 9-7 this year, 8-8 in 2007, 5-11 in 2006, and 5-11 in 2005.  That&#8217;s a record of 27-37, hardly a &#8216;performance culture&#8217; . . . but the playoffs this year was a defining moment.  It&#8217;s never too late to turn the culture around and leverage espirit de corps.</p>
<p>3. Know your strengths . . . and stick to them.  The Superbowl is not the time to change your corporate identity.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Snyder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Snyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 14:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice article John- lots of nuggets in there. 

However, for the rest of the year, when you try to bring up practices of major-sports as models for business, you are dismissed out of hand.  

I blogged last week about Tuesday Morning Quarterback&#039;s picks for the Unwanted best players, 

http://www.ere.net/blogs/Martin_Snyders_Passing_Scene/6072E641772B4ABBAC31474912788702.asp

and previously about TMQ&#039;s observation that Pittsburgh does better than any team at making the best of its draft picks and talent development. 

http://www.ere.net/blogs/Martin_Snyders_Passing_Scene/DEFAULT.ASP?LISTINGID={7CDC6A1C-0227-4346-98DC-22B7F3B72A00}</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article John- lots of nuggets in there. </p>
<p>However, for the rest of the year, when you try to bring up practices of major-sports as models for business, you are dismissed out of hand.  </p>
<p>I blogged last week about Tuesday Morning Quarterback&#8217;s picks for the Unwanted best players, </p>
<p><a href="http://www.ere.net/blogs/Martin_Snyders_Passing_Scene/6072E641772B4ABBAC31474912788702.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.ere.net/blogs/Martin_Snyders_Passing_Scene/6072E641772B4ABBAC31474912788702.asp</a></p>
<p>and previously about TMQ&#8217;s observation that Pittsburgh does better than any team at making the best of its draft picks and talent development. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.ere.net/blogs/Martin_Snyders_Passing_Scene/DEFAULT.ASP?LISTINGID=" rel="nofollow">http://www.ere.net/blogs/Martin_Snyders_Passing_Scene/DEFAULT.ASP?LISTINGID=</a>{7CDC6A1C-0227-4346-98DC-22B7F3B72A00}</p>
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