Comments on: Recruit Teachers to Become Employees Using Group Targeting http://www.ere.net/2008/07/28/recruit-teachers-to-become-employees-using-group-targeting/ Recruiting News, Recruiting Events, Recruiting Community, Social Recruiting Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:02:01 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Abdullah Monshie http://www.ere.net/2008/07/28/recruit-teachers-to-become-employees-using-group-targeting/comment-page-1/#comment-6308 Abdullah Monshie Fri, 01 Aug 2008 12:58:01 +0000 http://www.ere.net/?p=3362#comment-6308 The game plan for business has changed. Now days people being recruited not to solve current problems rather, to create future opportunities for the business to grow. The classical approach of filling vacancies to get job done becoming outdated. Big corporations are looking at candidates even at junior levels to provide solutions to unknown future issues and not only to solve the current issues while creating new opportunities for the business to grow. There are techniques of predicting the potential of job applicants to meet the demand of current corporations. Industry captains do not need the skill to gaze into the crystal ball to predict the future, rather mathematical model based on Behavioral Sciences and liberal arts have been developed to predict the likelihood of a candidate to contribute in more meaningful ways not now, rather for the future business undertaking. Current issues are best to be attended by the existing staff while future unknown issues are more important for the survival of corporations. Corporations need people that have the capacity to solve unknown future issues. The prediction model is already in existence within Behavioral Science and Liberal Arts body of knowledge, yet not many knew about the application of "Nascent discipline" in recruitment. Industry captain are majority trained to address business needs. Many fail to recognize that Social System is the "Master Key" in managing human capital in any size or type of corporations. The game plan for business has changed. Now days people being recruited not to solve current problems rather, to create future opportunities for the business to grow. The classical approach of filling vacancies to get job done becoming outdated. Big corporations are looking at candidates even at junior levels to provide solutions to unknown future issues and not only to solve the current issues while creating new opportunities for the business to grow.

There are techniques of predicting the potential of job applicants to meet the demand of current corporations. Industry captains do not need the skill to gaze into the crystal ball to predict the future, rather mathematical model based on Behavioral Sciences and liberal arts have been developed to predict the likelihood of a candidate to contribute in more meaningful ways not now, rather for the future business undertaking.

Current issues are best to be attended by the existing staff while future unknown issues are more important for the survival of corporations. Corporations need people that have the capacity to solve unknown future issues. The prediction model is already in existence within Behavioral Science and Liberal Arts body of knowledge, yet not many knew about the application of “Nascent discipline” in recruitment. Industry captain are majority trained to address business needs. Many fail to recognize that Social System is the “Master Key” in managing human capital in any size or type of corporations.

]]> By: Ernest Feiteira http://www.ere.net/2008/07/28/recruit-teachers-to-become-employees-using-group-targeting/comment-page-1/#comment-6254 Ernest Feiteira Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:24:17 +0000 http://www.ere.net/?p=3362#comment-6254 I shared this article with a couple teacher friends and below is one of the responses: "I completely agree with everything the article says. There are, in my opinion, no down sides. From the corporate perspective you get everything that Sullivan stated plus some intangibles. As far as "raiding" schools, teachers teach for lots of reasons as do police, fire, traders, underwriters and every other titled employee. However, at the end of the day (or month) we all are faced with the same disheartening reality, we have bills to pay. And on that day that the bills are due, a job is only a way to pay those bills. After all if any of us could get everything we want and need without ever having to do anything, how many of us would work? And finally from a teaching perspective, if we were targeted, some of us would chase the cheese and the rest of us will benefit from it. Some people will leave for the $ and those who don't will probably benefit from it when districts realize that teachers are highly qualified and a hot commodity and need to pay them, if not what they are worth, at least what they signify to the society and competitive enough to keep them. Thanks for the article. It was interesting and nice to see people recognize the skills involved in teaching. Hope my feedback was well received. " I shared this article with a couple teacher friends and below is one of the responses: “I completely agree with everything the article says. There are, in my opinion, no down sides. From the corporate perspective you get everything that Sullivan stated plus some intangibles. As far as “raiding” schools, teachers teach for lots of reasons as do police, fire, traders, underwriters and every other titled employee. However, at the end of the day (or month) we all are faced with the same disheartening reality, we have bills to pay. And on that day that the bills are due, a job is only a way to pay those bills. After all if any of us could get everything we want and need without ever having to do anything, how many of us would work? And finally from a teaching perspective, if we were targeted, some of us would chase the cheese and the rest of us will benefit from it. Some people will leave for the $ and those who don’t will probably benefit from it when districts realize that teachers are highly qualified and a hot commodity and need to pay them, if not what they are worth, at least what they signify to the society and competitive enough to keep them. Thanks for the article. It was interesting and nice to see people recognize the skills involved in teaching. Hope my feedback was well received. “

]]> By: Marty Jordan http://www.ere.net/2008/07/28/recruit-teachers-to-become-employees-using-group-targeting/comment-page-1/#comment-6205 Marty Jordan Mon, 28 Jul 2008 23:09:06 +0000 http://www.ere.net/?p=3362#comment-6205 As a former teacher who left the profession early on to join the corporate world, I couldn't agree more with Sullivan's premise that teachers make great employees. While you could say I'm biased, the characteristics that Sullivan uses to describe high performing teachers are exactly what companies are looking for in talented employees. In particular, I was never motivated by money nor the idea that I had summer's off. I chose teaching because I loved the challenge of helping students learn and grow. I know...it sounds so trite but true. And one characteristic that all good teachers possess...which Sullivan didn't include in his list...is the ability to motivate their students. A great skill for those who are interested in serving in leadership roles. As a former teacher who left the profession early on to join the corporate world, I couldn’t agree more with Sullivan’s premise that teachers make great employees. While you could say I’m biased, the characteristics that Sullivan uses to describe high performing teachers are exactly what companies are looking for in talented employees. In particular, I was never motivated by money nor the idea that I had summer’s off. I chose teaching because I loved the challenge of helping students learn and grow. I know…it sounds so trite but true. And one characteristic that all good teachers possess…which Sullivan didn’t include in his list…is the ability to motivate their students. A great skill for those who are interested in serving in leadership roles.

]]> By: Jim Moens http://www.ere.net/2008/07/28/recruit-teachers-to-become-employees-using-group-targeting/comment-page-1/#comment-6199 Jim Moens Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:15:30 +0000 http://www.ere.net/?p=3362#comment-6199 Years ago, when I was at a generalist staffing firm, we were strongly cautioned about placing teachers. Evidently there had been a number of instances wherein teachers had successfully gotten jobs (ostensibly permanent placements) in, say, May or June and then left the jobs at the end of the summer in order to go back to teaching. One or two of these teachers actually did come out and say that they did this just to make some extra money over the summer, fully intending to go back to teaching in the fall. Has anyone else dealt with this? Years ago, when I was at a generalist staffing firm, we were strongly cautioned about placing teachers. Evidently there had been a number of instances wherein teachers had successfully gotten jobs (ostensibly permanent placements) in, say, May or June and then left the jobs at the end of the summer in order to go back to teaching. One or two of these teachers actually did come out and say that they did this just to make some extra money over the summer, fully intending to go back to teaching in the fall.
Has anyone else dealt with this?

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