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	<title>Comments on: Evaluating Quality of Hire: Can&#8217;t Get There From Here</title>
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		<title>By: Michael Haberman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Haberman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This gets back to the same argument from 25 years ago went MBO was developed. People could get to the same goals by different routes. Some with desirable results some not so desirable, but everyone achieving the goal. So what  developed was BARS to describe the behaviors someone should engage in to be able to achieve the goal in an acceptable manner. Turned out not to work to well.

But others ran with this and we get behavioral interviewing, trying to get at whether someone performed in the past as we would like them to perform/behave in the future. All well and good, except we do not then measure them on these behaviors (the HOWS). Most of us just measure the outcome and deal with the fallout from the HOWS/behaviors in the aftermath.

So if you want to truly measure quality of hire then you have to understand the behaviors you want, measure the use of them and measure the outcome or goal achievement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This gets back to the same argument from 25 years ago went MBO was developed. People could get to the same goals by different routes. Some with desirable results some not so desirable, but everyone achieving the goal. So what  developed was BARS to describe the behaviors someone should engage in to be able to achieve the goal in an acceptable manner. Turned out not to work to well.</p>
<p>But others ran with this and we get behavioral interviewing, trying to get at whether someone performed in the past as we would like them to perform/behave in the future. All well and good, except we do not then measure them on these behaviors (the HOWS). Most of us just measure the outcome and deal with the fallout from the HOWS/behaviors in the aftermath.</p>
<p>So if you want to truly measure quality of hire then you have to understand the behaviors you want, measure the use of them and measure the outcome or goal achievement.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Cargill</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2008/06/24/evaluating-quality-of-hire-cant-get-there-from-here/#comment-5305</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Cargill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 19:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! I struggled getting past the story of Clock-Man, Wonder Woman, and Superman, but persevered (the HOW). I was rewarded with a clearer understanding of the point of the article (the WHAT)...

Seriously, although it was obtuse, the point is in there, and very worth considering. It is perplexing to me how "skilled" interviewers fail to explore the "HOW" after they have an understanding of the "WHAT".  While many experts decry the interview as a source of selection, I decry the interviewer as the problem within selection. Any candidate who claims to have successfully and repeatedly achieved good results should have no problem describing how, in convincing terms that are clear to the interviewer, they achieved the results. Candidate feedback I receive overwhelmingly indicates that the "HOW" element of the equation is virtually ignored.

As long as businesses focus inordinate attention on the "WHAT" (bottom line, end result, EBITDA, or stock performance), it will be difficult for Managers (Hiring Managers) to focus appropriately on the "HOW".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! I struggled getting past the story of Clock-Man, Wonder Woman, and Superman, but persevered (the HOW). I was rewarded with a clearer understanding of the point of the article (the WHAT)&#8230;</p>
<p>Seriously, although it was obtuse, the point is in there, and very worth considering. It is perplexing to me how &#8220;skilled&#8221; interviewers fail to explore the &#8220;HOW&#8221; after they have an understanding of the &#8220;WHAT&#8221;.  While many experts decry the interview as a source of selection, I decry the interviewer as the problem within selection. Any candidate who claims to have successfully and repeatedly achieved good results should have no problem describing how, in convincing terms that are clear to the interviewer, they achieved the results. Candidate feedback I receive overwhelmingly indicates that the &#8220;HOW&#8221; element of the equation is virtually ignored.</p>
<p>As long as businesses focus inordinate attention on the &#8220;WHAT&#8221; (bottom line, end result, EBITDA, or stock performance), it will be difficult for Managers (Hiring Managers) to focus appropriately on the &#8220;HOW&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Wendell Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2008/06/24/evaluating-quality-of-hire-cant-get-there-from-here/#comment-5303</link>
		<dc:creator>Wendell Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 18:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are absolutely correct. It is one of the reasons we have bad management. You see, if the behavior is right, the majority of results will be right. Whereas wrong behaviors only occasionally lead to right results. The odds of a good hire are greater when the right behavior is identified and evaluated pre-hire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are absolutely correct. It is one of the reasons we have bad management. You see, if the behavior is right, the majority of results will be right. Whereas wrong behaviors only occasionally lead to right results. The odds of a good hire are greater when the right behavior is identified and evaluated pre-hire.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Glaves</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Glaves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the business world today, the main measure of success still remains the outcomes you produce and, unfortunately, not necessarily how you produced them. So, while I understand why the "hows" are important to measuring quality of hire, in many organizations that is not enough. The business side will still require some factoring of results or outcomes into any measure of quality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the business world today, the main measure of success still remains the outcomes you produce and, unfortunately, not necessarily how you produced them. So, while I understand why the &#8220;hows&#8221; are important to measuring quality of hire, in many organizations that is not enough. The business side will still require some factoring of results or outcomes into any measure of quality.</p>
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