Comments on: 21 Definitions http://www.ere.net/2008/05/21/21-definitions/ Recruiting News, Recruiting Events, Recruiting Community, Social Recruiting Mon, 13 Feb 2012 18:11:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Peter Radloff http://www.ere.net/2008/05/21/21-definitions/comment-page-1/#comment-3793 Peter Radloff Fri, 30 May 2008 03:24:00 +0000 http://www.ere.net/2008/05/21/21-definitions/#comment-3793 Matt, I got a good laugh out of some of these, but I think that you seem to lump all the recruiters into one category. Yes, this verbiage is somewhat true in terms of what we use each day, but the onus is on the recruiter to explain exactly what each of these things truly means for your organization. I know that when I talk about growth with someone, I let them know what those possible patterns are, even going so far as to talk about people who transferred internally to roles better suited to them. Another was Feedback. I'm sure I'm not the perfect model for recruiting, but I believe in telling candidates honestly where they were weak, and making the manager give me this information, because somewhere down the line, we may have the perfect spot for someone who was rejected. You can be sure that they won't call you back later if you gave them some BS line the first time. I have to say, again it was a pretty funny article, but I think you are off the point. Though I bet we could come up with a list of jargon that recruiters hear from 'highly qualified candidates' :) Matt,

I got a good laugh out of some of these, but I think that you seem to lump all the recruiters into one category. Yes, this verbiage is somewhat true in terms of what we use each day, but the onus is on the recruiter to explain exactly what each of these things truly means for your organization.

I know that when I talk about growth with someone, I let them know what those possible patterns are, even going so far as to talk about people who transferred internally to roles better suited to them. Another was Feedback. I’m sure I’m not the perfect model for recruiting, but I believe in telling candidates honestly where they were weak, and making the manager give me this information, because somewhere down the line, we may have the perfect spot for someone who was rejected. You can be sure that they won’t call you back later if you gave them some BS line the first time.

I have to say, again it was a pretty funny article, but I think you are off the point. Though I bet we could come up with a list of jargon that recruiters hear from ‘highly qualified candidates’ :)

]]> By: Eric Beauford http://www.ere.net/2008/05/21/21-definitions/comment-page-1/#comment-3792 Eric Beauford Wed, 28 May 2008 04:50:00 +0000 http://www.ere.net/2008/05/21/21-definitions/#comment-3792 Referral (n) Usage: 'This opportunity doesn't seem to be a fit for you at this time, do you happen to know anyone like you, that you would refer to me?' Definition: Please do my job for me so I can make a lot of money and you can feel great about yourself. Referral (n) Usage: ‘This opportunity doesn’t seem to be a fit for you at this time, do you happen to know anyone like you, that you would refer to me?’ Definition: Please do my job for me so I can make a lot of money and you can feel great about yourself.

]]> By: Nick Fishman http://www.ere.net/2008/05/21/21-definitions/comment-page-1/#comment-3791 Nick Fishman Thu, 22 May 2008 06:50:00 +0000 http://www.ere.net/2008/05/21/21-definitions/#comment-3791 I have to admit. This was pretty funny. However, it doesn't necessarily reflect very well on the industry at large if these phrases are part of the general lexicon of the average recruiter. Assuming this was just a whimsical piece, I'll get on to my real concern which is related to the tidbit on background checks. It's certainly okay to have a sense of humor, but the assertion that a thorough and accurate background check is only a mouse click away is either ill-informed or irresponsible. There are two many examples of others who are lulled into that same false sense of security and one need only follow the news to find regular instances of companies who said they performed background checks only to have a major incident in the workplace. Many times, these incidents could have been avoided by performing a proper background check. There will always be a sense of concern among recruiters that they will lose good candidates when a background check takes too long. However, if you have the right screening partner they are doing a good job of explaining what is going on when delays occur. Check out a recent article I wrote on this very topic: http://www.cheezhead.com/xtra/2007/10/24/background-screeners-and-recuriters/ I have to admit. This was pretty funny. However, it doesn’t necessarily reflect very well on the industry at large if these phrases are part of the general lexicon of the average recruiter. Assuming this was just a whimsical piece, I’ll get on to my real concern which is related to the tidbit on background checks. It’s certainly okay to have a sense of humor, but the assertion that a thorough and accurate background check is only a mouse click away is either ill-informed or irresponsible. There are two many examples of others who are lulled into that same false sense of security and one need only follow the news to find regular instances of companies who said they performed background checks only to have a major incident in the workplace. Many times, these incidents could have been avoided by performing a proper background check.

There will always be a sense of concern among recruiters that they will lose good candidates when a background check takes too long. However, if you have the right screening partner they are doing a good job of explaining what is going on when delays occur. Check out a recent article I wrote on this very topic:
http://www.cheezhead.com/xtra/2007/10/24/background-screeners-and-recuriters/

]]> By: Henry Butler http://www.ere.net/2008/05/21/21-definitions/comment-page-1/#comment-3790 Henry Butler Thu, 22 May 2008 04:59:00 +0000 http://www.ere.net/2008/05/21/21-definitions/#comment-3790 I was surprised how many of those words I used throughout my day. I'm a corporate recruiter as well and I constantly find myself 'sugarcoating' almost every detail of the position(s) offered at my company. Thanks for the chuckles. I was surprised how many of those words I used throughout my day. I’m a corporate recruiter as well and I constantly find myself ‘sugarcoating’ almost every detail of the position(s) offered at my company. Thanks for the chuckles.

]]> By: Sylvia Dahlby http://www.ere.net/2008/05/21/21-definitions/comment-page-1/#comment-3789 Sylvia Dahlby Wed, 21 May 2008 11:49:00 +0000 http://www.ere.net/2008/05/21/21-definitions/#comment-3789 You forgot: Ground floor opportunity (phrase) Usage: 'Ground floor opportunity with tremendous income potential.' Definition: Smoke & mirrors used to lure you into working long hours for low pay and assuming some of the company's risk while fishing for more VC money. Similar to 'Growth' only with lower pay and no benefits. -- Sylvia Dahlby www.smartsearchonline.com >> SmartSearch >> Recruit the Right Way. Right away. Staffing Management & Talent Acquisition Software from APS, Inc. You forgot: Ground floor opportunity (phrase) Usage: ‘Ground floor opportunity with tremendous income potential.’ Definition: Smoke & mirrors used to lure you into working long hours for low pay and assuming some of the company’s risk while fishing for more VC money. Similar to ‘Growth’ only with lower pay and no benefits.

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Sylvia Dahlby
http://www.smartsearchonline.com

>> SmartSearch >> Recruit the Right Way. Right away.
Staffing Management & Talent Acquisition Software from APS, Inc.

]]> By: Louetta Melendez, SPHR http://www.ere.net/2008/05/21/21-definitions/comment-page-1/#comment-3788 Louetta Melendez, SPHR Wed, 21 May 2008 08:25:00 +0000 http://www.ere.net/2008/05/21/21-definitions/#comment-3788 I'm still smiling after laughing out loud at your article. If we're honest, most of us would admit to using many of these words in our daily Recruiter-speak. I’m still smiling after laughing out loud at your article. If we’re honest, most of us would admit to using many of these words in our daily Recruiter-speak.

]]> By: William Uranga http://www.ere.net/2008/05/21/21-definitions/comment-page-1/#comment-3787 William Uranga Wed, 21 May 2008 07:40:00 +0000 http://www.ere.net/2008/05/21/21-definitions/#comment-3787 This article was a funny as Zoolander (my apologies to any Ben Stiller, Owen Wilson fans). For the remaining folks they are scratching their heads, thinking ?Who would hire recruiters who exercise this lexicon?? Does a recruiter's personal brand, their organization's or their firm's brand really mean so little? To those who do use such words, they would be better served by offering better terms/questions. This could even be a multi-part article. Help stop the treatment of candidates as dolts. The truth is that the stellar, smart candidates wouldn't fall for such words, terms. I?m just a corporate recruiter and, to use the author's phrase, just being 'brutally honest'. This article was a funny as Zoolander (my apologies to any Ben Stiller, Owen Wilson fans).

For the remaining folks they are scratching their heads, thinking ?Who would hire recruiters who exercise this lexicon?? Does a recruiter’s personal brand, their organization’s or their firm’s brand really mean so little?

To those who do use such words, they would be better served by offering better terms/questions. This could even be a multi-part article. Help stop the treatment of candidates as dolts. The truth is that the stellar, smart candidates wouldn’t fall for such words, terms.

I?m just a corporate recruiter and, to use the author’s phrase, just being ‘brutally honest’.

]]> By: Jason Avant http://www.ere.net/2008/05/21/21-definitions/comment-page-1/#comment-3786 Jason Avant Wed, 21 May 2008 04:17:00 +0000 http://www.ere.net/2008/05/21/21-definitions/#comment-3786 Matthew, I'm printing this article and putting it in a frame. You forgot my current favorite, though: 'level-set'. Matthew, I’m printing this article and putting it in a frame. You forgot my current favorite, though: ‘level-set’.

]]> By: Max Pons http://www.ere.net/2008/05/21/21-definitions/comment-page-1/#comment-3785 Max Pons Wed, 21 May 2008 03:10:00 +0000 http://www.ere.net/2008/05/21/21-definitions/#comment-3785 Great Article Matthew. You've injected some much needed humour into my daily routine. It's funny because it's true. Great Article Matthew. You’ve injected some much needed humour into my daily routine. It’s funny because it’s true.

]]> By: J Adam Metcalf http://www.ere.net/2008/05/21/21-definitions/comment-page-1/#comment-3784 J Adam Metcalf Wed, 21 May 2008 01:27:00 +0000 http://www.ere.net/2008/05/21/21-definitions/#comment-3784 Alternate Definition: New passive candidate leads. Alternate Definition: New passive candidate leads.

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