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		<title>By: Michael Maisel</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2008/02/19/motivating-the-passive-sales-candidate/comment-page-1/#comment-4959</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Maisel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 02:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no cigar.  Though I don&#039;t disagree that the conditions you cite do turn passive into active and semi-active candidates, those are situations out of the recruiter&#039;s control.  Relying on one of those conditions to be present in order to attract passive sales candidates will leave you with a very inconsistent pipeline, not to mention a really unhappy VP Sales.  You really lose out in two ways.

Certainly, learning about a competitor&#039;s misfortunes is a &#039;GO&#039; signal to recruit their reps, but you&#039;re not the only savvy recruiter setting up Google alerts or tracking ticker symbols.  This is the first way you lose out, because you&#039;re run the risk of becoming just one of the vultures pouncing on the fallen prey.  It is more difficult to differentiate yourself and your opportunity when part of a horde and thus your close ratios drop, and the amount of effort increases as you try to jockey for position.

Rainmakers are the LAST salespeople an employer is going to mess with.  You don&#039;t cut your top producers&#039; territories - you ADD to them.  You don&#039;t reduce their earning opportunities - you find new incentives because they RESPOND to these challenges by DELIVERING.  So, you lose again here by taking advantage of situations like you describe because companies will protect their franchise players, leaving you the B and C players to build your team.

I come not to bury this discussion, but to redirect it.  So what then?

SalesPEOPLE (and I am one, and a hiring manager to boot)  are people, too.  As people, we respond to many of the same things that civilians do, albeit with some tweaks (but, hey think of the things you do for a software architect).  Dig out your college psych book and review Maslow&#039;s Hierarchy of Needs, talk to salespeople and dig into what makes them feel self-actualized in their roles.

Once you have a handle on that, look at your client/company to see how many of those things you can find in those sales roles.  Then, begin a &#039;conversation&#039; with your targets - in an enewsletter, blog, podcast or other content generated from the company website or the numerous sales sites and blogs around.

If you want to hire the BEST, it&#039;s seldom fast, and never easy.  They&#039;re hard to find and cautious to change, if their current employer appreciates them at all.  Fear and greed are 90&#039;s motivators and trademarks of the journeyman salesperson.  Welcome to the new millenium and salespeople who build businesses and themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no cigar.  Though I don&#8217;t disagree that the conditions you cite do turn passive into active and semi-active candidates, those are situations out of the recruiter&#8217;s control.  Relying on one of those conditions to be present in order to attract passive sales candidates will leave you with a very inconsistent pipeline, not to mention a really unhappy VP Sales.  You really lose out in two ways.</p>
<p>Certainly, learning about a competitor&#8217;s misfortunes is a &#8216;GO&#8217; signal to recruit their reps, but you&#8217;re not the only savvy recruiter setting up Google alerts or tracking ticker symbols.  This is the first way you lose out, because you&#8217;re run the risk of becoming just one of the vultures pouncing on the fallen prey.  It is more difficult to differentiate yourself and your opportunity when part of a horde and thus your close ratios drop, and the amount of effort increases as you try to jockey for position.</p>
<p>Rainmakers are the LAST salespeople an employer is going to mess with.  You don&#8217;t cut your top producers&#8217; territories &#8211; you ADD to them.  You don&#8217;t reduce their earning opportunities &#8211; you find new incentives because they RESPOND to these challenges by DELIVERING.  So, you lose again here by taking advantage of situations like you describe because companies will protect their franchise players, leaving you the B and C players to build your team.</p>
<p>I come not to bury this discussion, but to redirect it.  So what then?</p>
<p>SalesPEOPLE (and I am one, and a hiring manager to boot)  are people, too.  As people, we respond to many of the same things that civilians do, albeit with some tweaks (but, hey think of the things you do for a software architect).  Dig out your college psych book and review Maslow&#8217;s Hierarchy of Needs, talk to salespeople and dig into what makes them feel self-actualized in their roles.</p>
<p>Once you have a handle on that, look at your client/company to see how many of those things you can find in those sales roles.  Then, begin a &#8216;conversation&#8217; with your targets &#8211; in an enewsletter, blog, podcast or other content generated from the company website or the numerous sales sites and blogs around.</p>
<p>If you want to hire the BEST, it&#8217;s seldom fast, and never easy.  They&#8217;re hard to find and cautious to change, if their current employer appreciates them at all.  Fear and greed are 90&#8242;s motivators and trademarks of the journeyman salesperson.  Welcome to the new millenium and salespeople who build businesses and themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Deighton</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2008/02/19/motivating-the-passive-sales-candidate/comment-page-1/#comment-4956</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Deighton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lee,

Nice article, but I think you are only hitting the tip of the iceberg with passive candidates and what it is that causes them to &#039;heat up&#039;.   Fear and Greed are definitely motivating factors, but there are many more that do not fall into either category, i.e. challenge.  I have recruited hundreds of individuals who were very happy with the amount of money they were making, in fact, would accept less money for a position that challenged them.  They were in a very stable company, without any changes going on, so fear wasn&#039;t a factor either.  They were simply tapped out energy wise or bored.   They could stay in their present position, but after hearing of a new challenging opportunity they actively pursued it.  Others get tired of driving 3 hours each way in snow every day and a location closer to home is a strong motivation.  And don&#039;t forget Spouses and significant others, they are one of the key reasons an individual will become active from passive with seemingly no other motivation present. 

I agree you have to choose the right &#039;bait&#039; and you have to fish where the fish are that you want to catch.  Equally important is KEEP THEM ON THE LINE once they are hooked.  Too many get away because the recruiter fails to follow through and keep them excited about being on the &#039;hook.&#039;

Thanks for the article!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee,</p>
<p>Nice article, but I think you are only hitting the tip of the iceberg with passive candidates and what it is that causes them to &#8216;heat up&#8217;.   Fear and Greed are definitely motivating factors, but there are many more that do not fall into either category, i.e. challenge.  I have recruited hundreds of individuals who were very happy with the amount of money they were making, in fact, would accept less money for a position that challenged them.  They were in a very stable company, without any changes going on, so fear wasn&#8217;t a factor either.  They were simply tapped out energy wise or bored.   They could stay in their present position, but after hearing of a new challenging opportunity they actively pursued it.  Others get tired of driving 3 hours each way in snow every day and a location closer to home is a strong motivation.  And don&#8217;t forget Spouses and significant others, they are one of the key reasons an individual will become active from passive with seemingly no other motivation present. </p>
<p>I agree you have to choose the right &#8216;bait&#8217; and you have to fish where the fish are that you want to catch.  Equally important is KEEP THEM ON THE LINE once they are hooked.  Too many get away because the recruiter fails to follow through and keep them excited about being on the &#8216;hook.&#8217;</p>
<p>Thanks for the article!</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Rosenfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill Rosenfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking from the sales person?s perspective, which I am, I have to agree with everything you&#039;ve discussed. I think one of the biggest objections companies must overcome when looking for a passive top sales earner is the financial gap from when that person comes on board the new company until they&#039;ve developed their book of business.  Sometimes that?s 3 months, sometimes that?s 6 months but in most cases it takes about a year to get to the point that sales person was at financially, before they left their old position. This goes back to referencing both fear and greed.  The key here is the right bait.  That sales person must feel like he/she can make a comfortable transition with out a financial loss and in fact, make gains with other potential benefits. I.e. more vacation time, stock/stock options and/or sign on bonus.  Each person is motivated differently the key is to speak to that individual and what makes them energized and excited about a new opportunity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking from the sales person?s perspective, which I am, I have to agree with everything you&#8217;ve discussed. I think one of the biggest objections companies must overcome when looking for a passive top sales earner is the financial gap from when that person comes on board the new company until they&#8217;ve developed their book of business.  Sometimes that?s 3 months, sometimes that?s 6 months but in most cases it takes about a year to get to the point that sales person was at financially, before they left their old position. This goes back to referencing both fear and greed.  The key here is the right bait.  That sales person must feel like he/she can make a comfortable transition with out a financial loss and in fact, make gains with other potential benefits. I.e. more vacation time, stock/stock options and/or sign on bonus.  Each person is motivated differently the key is to speak to that individual and what makes them energized and excited about a new opportunity.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is interesting. I spent over a year and a half in business to business sales before I entered the field of recruiting exactly one month ago. I had a great car/expense plan, good commission, and a solid base. Many friends told me that I was an idiot for leaving. I think it was the best decision I could have made. Perhaps what makes me different from the type of person you described in this article is that I became an active seeker. I got bored with what I was selling. It was the same presentation about the same products every time. It probably didn&#039;t help that, to a certain degree, I stopped believing in the product I was selling. I wanted a relationship based sell rather than the get &#039;em for as much as you can then move on to the next victim. I know several people in this Fortune  company that share the same sentiment. 

The person that recruited me (no pun intended) stressed that if I didn&#039;t make the move now, I would stay comfortable and then years would have went by in unhappiness. Given that I&#039;m only 3 years out of college and can still make changes in my career without much impact played on the &#039;fear&#039; of losing the ability to be mobile...from a career standpoint, not bodily pain. I think that the approach you are suggesting works when you use terms like fear and greed. Everything we do in life can be broken down into that. But in recruiting top sales professionals, age is definitely going to be a factor in how they pursue opportunities. I was willing to take a pay cut just to have a fresh opportunity in a sales environment where I got the personal satisfaction that the relationship management aspect of recruiting could provide. Obviously someone in their 30&#039;s with a wife and kids is going to see things a bit differently more times than not. 

Overall, I think this was a great article. It got me thinking about why I made the move into recruiting. I gotta admit, I love it over here on the dark side!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is interesting. I spent over a year and a half in business to business sales before I entered the field of recruiting exactly one month ago. I had a great car/expense plan, good commission, and a solid base. Many friends told me that I was an idiot for leaving. I think it was the best decision I could have made. Perhaps what makes me different from the type of person you described in this article is that I became an active seeker. I got bored with what I was selling. It was the same presentation about the same products every time. It probably didn&#8217;t help that, to a certain degree, I stopped believing in the product I was selling. I wanted a relationship based sell rather than the get &#8216;em for as much as you can then move on to the next victim. I know several people in this Fortune  company that share the same sentiment. </p>
<p>The person that recruited me (no pun intended) stressed that if I didn&#8217;t make the move now, I would stay comfortable and then years would have went by in unhappiness. Given that I&#8217;m only 3 years out of college and can still make changes in my career without much impact played on the &#8216;fear&#8217; of losing the ability to be mobile&#8230;from a career standpoint, not bodily pain. I think that the approach you are suggesting works when you use terms like fear and greed. Everything we do in life can be broken down into that. But in recruiting top sales professionals, age is definitely going to be a factor in how they pursue opportunities. I was willing to take a pay cut just to have a fresh opportunity in a sales environment where I got the personal satisfaction that the relationship management aspect of recruiting could provide. Obviously someone in their 30&#8242;s with a wife and kids is going to see things a bit differently more times than not. </p>
<p>Overall, I think this was a great article. It got me thinking about why I made the move into recruiting. I gotta admit, I love it over here on the dark side!</p>
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