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	<title>Comments on: Web 2.0 Recruiting is Here</title>
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		<title>By: Matt Kerr</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2008/02/14/web-20-recruiting-is-here/#comment-4987</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Kerr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks - I enjoy your posts - wanted to comment that some great tools/techniques exist for those in job search - on the other side of the table.  
Sue can utilize some Web 2.0 tools outlined in this blogpost: http://tinyurl.com/2nkang

I showed this to one contingency recruiter and she is using it to help identify potential sales leads.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks - I enjoy your posts - wanted to comment that some great tools/techniques exist for those in job search - on the other side of the table.<br />
Sue can utilize some Web 2.0 tools outlined in this blogpost: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/2nkang" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/2nkang</a></p>
<p>I showed this to one contingency recruiter and she is using it to help identify potential sales leads.</p>
<p>;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Karina Kovler</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2008/02/14/web-20-recruiting-is-here/#comment-4986</link>
		<dc:creator>Karina Kovler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To answer your question.YES your candidates are using the new technology such as Facebook, Myspace, Linkedin, Zoominfo etc. Most people are just not ready for the Web 2.0. advertising and they are comfortable with the job boards. For the most popular way a candidate searches for a job is through search engines.

Let me ask you before internet how did you find candidates? Newspaper correct? And it was a risk to go on job boards. Well now this is the new way and it will keep going forward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To answer your question.YES your candidates are using the new technology such as Facebook, Myspace, Linkedin, Zoominfo etc. Most people are just not ready for the Web 2.0. advertising and they are comfortable with the job boards. For the most popular way a candidate searches for a job is through search engines.</p>
<p>Let me ask you before internet how did you find candidates? Newspaper correct? And it was a risk to go on job boards. Well now this is the new way and it will keep going forward.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Evans</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2008/02/14/web-20-recruiting-is-here/#comment-4985</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin's article is an excellent profile of what could happen in the near future but ignores many realities faced by corporate recruiting functions. For one example; this article ignores the many issues with data security and internal controls found in many more traditional corporations. 

But there is a more fundamental problem I see:

The article, as with too many on ERE, in my opinion, is slanted towards highly educated tech savvy job seekers at ease with evolving tools and cutting edge technology. The reality is, most of us do not spend our lives searching for these people. The vast majority of the workers we seek are 'regular Joe's and Jane's' most of whom would not be equipped to deal with this recruiting approach. 

My team hires 2500 people a year many of whom have no presence on the web beyond a resume in a job board (if that) and an email address. We find these people through 'real networking' not virtual; employee referrals; trolling resume databases and other grassroots activities. I suspect this is more in line with most members of ERE...sorry it's not so thrilling.

I write this not to rain on Kevin's parade and indeed some of his ideas can be used in more traditional recruiting. However before you go charging off to convince 'the powers that be' at your company that skype, facebook, streaming multi media, online chat et. al. are the future of recruiting, take a hard look at your candidate profile and ask 'are my candidates really using this stuff?'

Just food for thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin&#8217;s article is an excellent profile of what could happen in the near future but ignores many realities faced by corporate recruiting functions. For one example; this article ignores the many issues with data security and internal controls found in many more traditional corporations. </p>
<p>But there is a more fundamental problem I see:</p>
<p>The article, as with too many on ERE, in my opinion, is slanted towards highly educated tech savvy job seekers at ease with evolving tools and cutting edge technology. The reality is, most of us do not spend our lives searching for these people. The vast majority of the workers we seek are &#8216;regular Joe&#8217;s and Jane&#8217;s&#8217; most of whom would not be equipped to deal with this recruiting approach. </p>
<p>My team hires 2500 people a year many of whom have no presence on the web beyond a resume in a job board (if that) and an email address. We find these people through &#8216;real networking&#8217; not virtual; employee referrals; trolling resume databases and other grassroots activities. I suspect this is more in line with most members of ERE&#8230;sorry it&#8217;s not so thrilling.</p>
<p>I write this not to rain on Kevin&#8217;s parade and indeed some of his ideas can be used in more traditional recruiting. However before you go charging off to convince &#8216;the powers that be&#8217; at your company that skype, facebook, streaming multi media, online chat et. al. are the future of recruiting, take a hard look at your candidate profile and ask &#8216;are my candidates really using this stuff?&#8217;</p>
<p>Just food for thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Syd Kain</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2008/02/14/web-20-recruiting-is-here/#comment-4984</link>
		<dc:creator>Syd Kain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 04:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin,

Great article.  The challenge that we see with the current (and very Web 1.0) tools is that the candidate is just a resume stuck in a database.  The fundamental shift with the new technologies is that the candidate is now empowered to showchase (in great detail) what they've accomplished, and what they are capable of achieving.  

Soon the days of resumes sitting in big Monster-like databases hoping to be discovered will end.  

Candidates can now create their profiles, manage them, and distribute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin,</p>
<p>Great article.  The challenge that we see with the current (and very Web 1.0) tools is that the candidate is just a resume stuck in a database.  The fundamental shift with the new technologies is that the candidate is now empowered to showchase (in great detail) what they&#8217;ve accomplished, and what they are capable of achieving.  </p>
<p>Soon the days of resumes sitting in big Monster-like databases hoping to be discovered will end.  </p>
<p>Candidates can now create their profiles, manage them, and distribute.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Yoskovitz</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2008/02/14/web-20-recruiting-is-here/#comment-4983</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Yoskovitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 02:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin - I think you've definitely explained where things are going. 

I also like Jennifer's comment - at the end of the day salary, benefits and culture will always play a big role. But I think what Kevin is describing has a lot to do with culture. Companies - using Web 2.0 technologies - have a better / more effective way of showing off their culture. All the 'gadgets' in the world won't matter if you don't use them to authentically represent what makes your company and the people there tick. That's what attracts top quality candidates ... an 'insider's view' into the company's culture &#038; team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin - I think you&#8217;ve definitely explained where things are going. </p>
<p>I also like Jennifer&#8217;s comment - at the end of the day salary, benefits and culture will always play a big role. But I think what Kevin is describing has a lot to do with culture. Companies - using Web 2.0 technologies - have a better / more effective way of showing off their culture. All the &#8216;gadgets&#8217; in the world won&#8217;t matter if you don&#8217;t use them to authentically represent what makes your company and the people there tick. That&#8217;s what attracts top quality candidates &#8230; an &#8216;insider&#8217;s view&#8217; into the company&#8217;s culture &#038; team.</p>
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		<title>By: David Blender, CPC</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2008/02/14/web-20-recruiting-is-here/#comment-4982</link>
		<dc:creator>David Blender, CPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 03:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin:

A very on point article.  It certainly drives home the point of the emerging use of Web 2.0 for recruiting.

Thank you for sharing and for providing clarity.

David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin:</p>
<p>A very on point article.  It certainly drives home the point of the emerging use of Web 2.0 for recruiting.</p>
<p>Thank you for sharing and for providing clarity.</p>
<p>David</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Reinke</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2008/02/14/web-20-recruiting-is-here/#comment-4981</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer Reinke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin's points about Web 2.0 are spot on; I couldn't agree more. But, in the end, all the fancy site work in the world won't deter a quality candidate from the things that truly matter to them - salary, benefits, culture. If these things aren't competitive and ground-breaking enough to speak to them, the candidate will still pass the company by, cyber-saaviness and all. (Or they won't; they'll get hired and in 6 months you'll be wondering why you couldn't retain them after all that work to revamp the web site). 

I would appreciate thoughts on trends toward changing the way companies look at how people want to work. The most obvious being opportunities for things like flexibility for remote connectivity, flex-time, job sharing and generally being truly accountable for their own productivity regardless of where they are and what time it is. 

Granted, this environment is not conducive for everyone, but time and time again, we see that people are looking for more control over how they live. Work and life are not separate anymore; they aren't even balanced anymore. They are integrated and so connected to each other that sometimes you can't tell where one stops and the other begins. 

What if we first review and revitalize a few internal policies before repackaging the same way of doing business? Migrating to Web 2.0 is something that companies won't choose to do; they'll have to do it in order to keep up with the dynamic recruiting environment. But before we rush to get into it, it might be prudent for companies to see what changes they can make from the inside out to make themselves more attractive to candidates. Then the real fun begins -- launching that new perspective with Web 2.0.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin&#8217;s points about Web 2.0 are spot on; I couldn&#8217;t agree more. But, in the end, all the fancy site work in the world won&#8217;t deter a quality candidate from the things that truly matter to them - salary, benefits, culture. If these things aren&#8217;t competitive and ground-breaking enough to speak to them, the candidate will still pass the company by, cyber-saaviness and all. (Or they won&#8217;t; they&#8217;ll get hired and in 6 months you&#8217;ll be wondering why you couldn&#8217;t retain them after all that work to revamp the web site). </p>
<p>I would appreciate thoughts on trends toward changing the way companies look at how people want to work. The most obvious being opportunities for things like flexibility for remote connectivity, flex-time, job sharing and generally being truly accountable for their own productivity regardless of where they are and what time it is. </p>
<p>Granted, this environment is not conducive for everyone, but time and time again, we see that people are looking for more control over how they live. Work and life are not separate anymore; they aren&#8217;t even balanced anymore. They are integrated and so connected to each other that sometimes you can&#8217;t tell where one stops and the other begins. </p>
<p>What if we first review and revitalize a few internal policies before repackaging the same way of doing business? Migrating to Web 2.0 is something that companies won&#8217;t choose to do; they&#8217;ll have to do it in order to keep up with the dynamic recruiting environment. But before we rush to get into it, it might be prudent for companies to see what changes they can make from the inside out to make themselves more attractive to candidates. Then the real fun begins &#8212; launching that new perspective with Web 2.0.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Murphy</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2008/02/14/web-20-recruiting-is-here/#comment-4980</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 08:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin, you make excellent points. Like John Sullivan said, most career pages are boring the candidate. Applicant Tracking Systems (ATS) or Candidate Relationship Management Systems (CRMS) are restricted with their database structure and text based communication mode. Web 2.0 is taking on a more candidate-centric front end. Candidates expect more.  More two way exchange. More engaging experiences.  Candidates are decision makers too.  Web 2.0 is providing candidates with information to support their choices.

Maybe we will see the ATS/CRMS being replaced or morphed into the CEP - Candidate Experience Platform. The CEP could provide the dashboard and vehicle for integrating the various modes of contact and the delivery of a wide range of multi-media insights into campus and culture, real-time interactions with potential co-works, and virtual experiences, such as simulations and job tryouts. 

Recently I was exploring a career page for high tech jobs for a firm in Canada. About two pages into the text about the job I read: 'We hope you are excited about this opportunity.' Somehow, I feel a good majority of the potential candidates never made it that far. With today?s low tolerance for boring web pages, they clicked away, looking for Web 2.0

Keep writing Kevin. Give the recruiting community a continuous nudge into the present.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin, you make excellent points. Like John Sullivan said, most career pages are boring the candidate. Applicant Tracking Systems (ATS) or Candidate Relationship Management Systems (CRMS) are restricted with their database structure and text based communication mode. Web 2.0 is taking on a more candidate-centric front end. Candidates expect more.  More two way exchange. More engaging experiences.  Candidates are decision makers too.  Web 2.0 is providing candidates with information to support their choices.</p>
<p>Maybe we will see the ATS/CRMS being replaced or morphed into the CEP - Candidate Experience Platform. The CEP could provide the dashboard and vehicle for integrating the various modes of contact and the delivery of a wide range of multi-media insights into campus and culture, real-time interactions with potential co-works, and virtual experiences, such as simulations and job tryouts. </p>
<p>Recently I was exploring a career page for high tech jobs for a firm in Canada. About two pages into the text about the job I read: &#8216;We hope you are excited about this opportunity.&#8217; Somehow, I feel a good majority of the potential candidates never made it that far. With today?s low tolerance for boring web pages, they clicked away, looking for Web 2.0</p>
<p>Keep writing Kevin. Give the recruiting community a continuous nudge into the present.</p>
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