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	<title>Comments on: Developing an Internal, Dedicated Sourcing Team</title>
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		<title>By: Kathy Narvaez</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2006/11/17/developing-an-internal-dedicated-sourcing-team/comment-page-1/#comment-4640</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathy Narvaez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 10:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am part of a new dedicated sourcing team for a well known company and it is showing quick results to bring in talent in niche positions for the company.  Is it boring? no not in the least because I do have contact with the hiring managers through the recruiters and we have a process in place that works and doesn&#039;t impede the ultimate goal....get the talent in the door - I think its a brilliant idea - I would appreciate any input regarding metrics for this type of position that doesn&#039;t involve overall cost issues - how do you determine if a sourcer/researcher is producing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am part of a new dedicated sourcing team for a well known company and it is showing quick results to bring in talent in niche positions for the company.  Is it boring? no not in the least because I do have contact with the hiring managers through the recruiters and we have a process in place that works and doesn&#8217;t impede the ultimate goal&#8230;.get the talent in the door &#8211; I think its a brilliant idea &#8211; I would appreciate any input regarding metrics for this type of position that doesn&#8217;t involve overall cost issues &#8211; how do you determine if a sourcer/researcher is producing?</p>
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		<title>By: Patti Yaritz CDR</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patti Yaritz CDR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 09:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As always there is a blessing and a curse. Just like internal recruiting internal sourcing has an achilles heel. You lose sight of the overall marketplace. I say there are some advantages to an internal sourcing team and I am also a believer there is a reason to utilize external sourcers who know how you relate to the rest of the players in your space. Just like recruiters there is difference in the corporate version and the 3rd parties. Could it be the difference in hunting versus gathering?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As always there is a blessing and a curse. Just like internal recruiting internal sourcing has an achilles heel. You lose sight of the overall marketplace. I say there are some advantages to an internal sourcing team and I am also a believer there is a reason to utilize external sourcers who know how you relate to the rest of the players in your space. Just like recruiters there is difference in the corporate version and the 3rd parties. Could it be the difference in hunting versus gathering?</p>
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		<title>By: John Sloan</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2006/11/17/developing-an-internal-dedicated-sourcing-team/comment-page-1/#comment-4638</link>
		<dc:creator>John Sloan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 07:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bet you a lunch he/she doesn&#039;t self-ID. But hey....just outsource your work to him/her....they refuse to share and enlighten us all with a better way so I am eager to float them all my business. How about you? lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bet you a lunch he/she doesn&#8217;t self-ID. But hey&#8230;.just outsource your work to him/her&#8230;.they refuse to share and enlighten us all with a better way so I am eager to float them all my business. How about you? lol</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Meth</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2006/11/17/developing-an-internal-dedicated-sourcing-team/comment-page-1/#comment-4637</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Meth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 09:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ouch! Clearly you have some strong views.

Your comment: If you are Google or a similar darling (unlikely), it may make sense to create an internal candidate sourcing team. You have the money (unlimited), young people will dial for dollars and endure the monotony of the act of sourcing, and they will think they can get promoted to- get this - RECRUITER --- ooooh internal staffing - SEXY!

My response: There are lots of people who are inspired, yes inspired, by sourcing. They love the hunt and love the challenge of solving complex puzzles. I?m clear that you don?t. FYI, I don?t either but I think it makes sense to hire people who do.

Your comment: No Really, there are several companies out there that outsource sourcing. They can do it, cheaper, better, faster. 

My response: Not every company will want to outsource. Either way the function, if done well, is the same.

Your comment: Remember, those who can do. Those who constantly write and speak about it.. well they are not in the trenches.

My response: Are you really taking aim at Shally here? Surely not?

Your comment: Do look into outsourced sourcing of talent. Free your corporate recruiters from the time shackles of sourcing and don&#039;t fall on your own sword trying to use the caveman metrics listed above.

My response: What metrics do you recommend? 

Your comment: #3 would take a team of mathematicians to determine.

My response: Not really. If costs are tracked properly this is easy to do. Your finance department can be a great ally. They love to track costs!

I request that you complete your ere.net profile and let us all know who you are, where you work, and what you do for a living. Doing that will add credibility to your comments.

Thanks,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ouch! Clearly you have some strong views.</p>
<p>Your comment: If you are Google or a similar darling (unlikely), it may make sense to create an internal candidate sourcing team. You have the money (unlimited), young people will dial for dollars and endure the monotony of the act of sourcing, and they will think they can get promoted to- get this &#8211; RECRUITER &#8212; ooooh internal staffing &#8211; SEXY!</p>
<p>My response: There are lots of people who are inspired, yes inspired, by sourcing. They love the hunt and love the challenge of solving complex puzzles. I?m clear that you don?t. FYI, I don?t either but I think it makes sense to hire people who do.</p>
<p>Your comment: No Really, there are several companies out there that outsource sourcing. They can do it, cheaper, better, faster. </p>
<p>My response: Not every company will want to outsource. Either way the function, if done well, is the same.</p>
<p>Your comment: Remember, those who can do. Those who constantly write and speak about it.. well they are not in the trenches.</p>
<p>My response: Are you really taking aim at Shally here? Surely not?</p>
<p>Your comment: Do look into outsourced sourcing of talent. Free your corporate recruiters from the time shackles of sourcing and don&#8217;t fall on your own sword trying to use the caveman metrics listed above.</p>
<p>My response: What metrics do you recommend? </p>
<p>Your comment: #3 would take a team of mathematicians to determine.</p>
<p>My response: Not really. If costs are tracked properly this is easy to do. Your finance department can be a great ally. They love to track costs!</p>
<p>I request that you complete your ere.net profile and let us all know who you are, where you work, and what you do for a living. Doing that will add credibility to your comments.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
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		<title>By: John Sloan</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2006/11/17/developing-an-internal-dedicated-sourcing-team/comment-page-1/#comment-4636</link>
		<dc:creator>John Sloan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 04:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree with Shally. I have been involved in building this type of group over the past 22 months and while we haven&#039;t faced all the challenges expressed above, I am preparing for each of them. To me it is a change management issue rather than a &#039;can we actually do this&#039; issue. Thanks for the backup on my groups thinking Shally. As far as folks shooting arrows at the leaders in this realm, it is nothing if not expected. I owe a major part of my education in the area of strategic sourcing to Shally and his crew. For any group with the assets available, ignoring the development of a strategic sourcing team to handle a corporations critical skill pipeline building is tantamount to ignoring the coming boomer crunch and not knowing who the players are in the NFL while you are trying to find a quarterback for the big game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree with Shally. I have been involved in building this type of group over the past 22 months and while we haven&#8217;t faced all the challenges expressed above, I am preparing for each of them. To me it is a change management issue rather than a &#8216;can we actually do this&#8217; issue. Thanks for the backup on my groups thinking Shally. As far as folks shooting arrows at the leaders in this realm, it is nothing if not expected. I owe a major part of my education in the area of strategic sourcing to Shally and his crew. For any group with the assets available, ignoring the development of a strategic sourcing team to handle a corporations critical skill pipeline building is tantamount to ignoring the coming boomer crunch and not knowing who the players are in the NFL while you are trying to find a quarterback for the big game.</p>
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		<title>By: Maureen Sharib</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maureen Sharib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 04:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;...the monotony of the act of sourcing...shackles of sourcing...&#039;

It sounds like you&#039;ve been one to know one.  Who are you, Crop Rec?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;&#8230;the monotony of the act of sourcing&#8230;shackles of sourcing&#8230;&#8217;</p>
<p>It sounds like you&#8217;ve been one to know one.  Who are you, Crop Rec?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Langhans</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2006/11/17/developing-an-internal-dedicated-sourcing-team/comment-page-1/#comment-4634</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Langhans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 03:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my favorite challenges:

Recruiters afraid to pick up the phone and follow through with leads that have been sourced. 

Over-reliance on email as the initial outreach. 


GOOD ARTICLE SHALLY!  Keep&#039;m coming ....

TGIF,

Jeremy Langhans
Senior Sourcer, Human Resources
Panasonic Avionics Corporation
jeremy.langhans@panasonic.aero
949-462-1458 office / voicemail</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my favorite challenges:</p>
<p>Recruiters afraid to pick up the phone and follow through with leads that have been sourced. </p>
<p>Over-reliance on email as the initial outreach. </p>
<p>GOOD ARTICLE SHALLY!  Keep&#8217;m coming &#8230;.</p>
<p>TGIF,</p>
<p>Jeremy Langhans<br />
Senior Sourcer, Human Resources<br />
Panasonic Avionics Corporation<br />
<a href="mailto:jeremy.langhans@panasonic.aero">jeremy.langhans@panasonic.aero</a><br />
949-462-1458 office / voicemail</p>
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