Comments on: Where Have the Diamond Mines Gone? http://www.ere.net/2005/12/08/where-have-the-diamond-mines-gone/ Recruiting News, Recruiting Events, Recruiting Community, Social Recruiting Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:02:01 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Dale Shirley http://www.ere.net/2005/12/08/where-have-the-diamond-mines-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-4131 Dale Shirley Fri, 09 Dec 2005 03:15:00 +0000 http://www.ere.net/2005/12/08/where-have-the-diamond-mines-gone/#comment-4131 Maureen; I am most interested in receiving your Sourcing Glossary. I am on a temporary contract, so please send it to my business email at daleshirley@earthlink.net Thank you Dale Shirley 425.445.8707 daleshirley@earthlink.net Maureen;
I am most interested in receiving your Sourcing Glossary. I am on a temporary contract, so please send it to my business email at
daleshirley@earthlink.net

Thank you

Dale Shirley
425.445.8707
daleshirley@earthlink.net

]]> By: Larry Woods http://www.ere.net/2005/12/08/where-have-the-diamond-mines-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-4132 Larry Woods Fri, 09 Dec 2005 02:12:00 +0000 http://www.ere.net/2005/12/08/where-have-the-diamond-mines-gone/#comment-4132 Maureen, Your take on Pocket Mining is great and you will now (again?) be labeled a raider and informed of all the laws that you may be breaking and how sleazy you make this profession by doing your job. Isn't it great? Having heard a lot more lawyer jokes than recruiter jokes ,I get a big thrill when I hear some of these things. A lot of people seem to have forgotten the 'smile and dial' system of recruiting (mining) and prefer the job board system,which is certainly more sterile and doesn't involve anything that might upset someone's apple cart,but to use that mining analogy, if the 49er's had followed that type system,there would never have been a rush to California and some of them would still be sitting there waiting for the gold to come to them. If you use that system or deal with the unemployed, aren't you actually waiting for the 'gold' to come to you? I prefer your method of mining which I guess makes me slimy sleaze who is intent on 'harming' some poor little company by 'stealing ' talent. Nothing against people who prefer to exist on job boards but that's not recruiting (mining),that's taking the dross or the slag that's left after the mine is closed.Power to the real miners!!! They will find the gold. Maureen, Your take on Pocket Mining is great and you will now (again?) be labeled a raider and informed of all the laws that you may be breaking and how sleazy you make this profession by doing your job. Isn’t it great? Having heard a lot more lawyer jokes than recruiter jokes ,I get a big thrill when I hear some of these things. A lot of people seem to have forgotten the ’smile and dial’ system of recruiting (mining) and prefer the job board system,which is certainly more sterile and doesn’t involve anything that might upset someone’s apple cart,but to use that mining analogy, if the 49er’s had followed that type system,there would never have been a rush to California and some of them would still be sitting there waiting for the gold to come to them. If you use that system or deal with the unemployed, aren’t you actually waiting for the ‘gold’ to come to you? I prefer your method of mining which I guess makes me slimy sleaze who is intent on ‘harming’ some poor little company by ’stealing ‘ talent. Nothing against people who prefer to exist on job boards but that’s not recruiting (mining),that’s taking the dross or the slag that’s left after the mine is closed.Power to the real miners!!! They will find the gold.

]]> By: Scott Smith http://www.ere.net/2005/12/08/where-have-the-diamond-mines-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-4130 Scott Smith Fri, 09 Dec 2005 02:02:00 +0000 http://www.ere.net/2005/12/08/where-have-the-diamond-mines-gone/#comment-4130 I think all of these sources are good to use, but once everyone else starts using them I think they loose some of their zest and the quality seems to suffer. Not every recruiter has a budget to try or join all of the latest services either. I prefer to have a checklist of resources to try when sourcing, and old fashioned Internet Boolean Research is always a good way to untap some of the Internet and is not really 'arcane' I don't think. I think all of these sources are good to use, but once everyone else starts using them I think they loose some of their zest and the quality seems to suffer. Not every recruiter has a budget to try or join all of the latest services either. I prefer to have a checklist of resources to try when sourcing, and old fashioned Internet Boolean Research is always a good way to untap some of the Internet and is not really ‘arcane’ I don’t think.

]]> By: Daniel Lopez http://www.ere.net/2005/12/08/where-have-the-diamond-mines-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-4128 Daniel Lopez Thu, 08 Dec 2005 04:14:00 +0000 http://www.ere.net/2005/12/08/where-have-the-diamond-mines-gone/#comment-4128 Are there any success stories for recruiters using H3? I'm always intersted in better sourcing practices, but my instincts tell me that candidates will be put off by the tedious process. Are there any success stories for recruiters using H3?

I’m always intersted in better sourcing practices, but my instincts tell me that candidates will be put off by the tedious process.

]]> By: Steven Levy http://www.ere.net/2005/12/08/where-have-the-diamond-mines-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-4129 Steven Levy Thu, 08 Dec 2005 02:19:00 +0000 http://www.ere.net/2005/12/08/where-have-the-diamond-mines-gone/#comment-4129 In the days of old when websites weren't old and directories were a plenty, One could surf the 'net both day and night uncovering resumes - there were so many. But companies started thinking as their employees were linking themselves up with recruiters each day, If we prevent them from x-raying, site flipping, and saying That our culture's at a point of decay, We'll delete robot files and turn headhunter smiles into frowns just like night turns into the day. Soon these veins will run dry and they'll be looking for more ways to stock talented fish in the pool, Jobster, Zoominfo, and all of these tools are fantastic new ways to source talent, But when push comes to shove the real creative innovation is a phone in the hands of a smilin', dialin' fool. Bottom line: Kevin, have you forgotten the gold mine that lives on the other end of that thing on recruiters' desks called the telephone? In the days of old when websites weren’t old
and directories were a plenty,

One could surf the ‘net both day and night
uncovering resumes – there were so many.

But companies started thinking as their employees were linking
themselves up with recruiters each day,

If we prevent them from x-raying, site flipping, and saying
That our culture’s at a point of decay,

We’ll delete robot files and turn headhunter smiles
into frowns just like night turns into the day.

Soon these veins will run dry and they’ll be looking for more ways
to stock talented fish in the pool,

Jobster, Zoominfo, and all of these tools
are fantastic new ways to source talent,

But when push comes to shove the real creative innovation
is a phone in the hands of a smilin’, dialin’ fool.

Bottom line: Kevin, have you forgotten the gold mine that lives on the other end of that thing on recruiters’ desks called the telephone?

]]> By: Maureen Sharib http://www.ere.net/2005/12/08/where-have-the-diamond-mines-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-4127 Maureen Sharib Thu, 08 Dec 2005 01:51:00 +0000 http://www.ere.net/2005/12/08/where-have-the-diamond-mines-gone/#comment-4127 There are diamond mines. They are the untapped reserves of current employees sitting inside every office of evey company in the world. At the risk of being called a corporate raider, ignoring this mostly untapped reservoir of talent is at the peril of survival for every company in the world. From 'The Magic In The Method' Sourcing Glossary: Pocket Hunting: Terminology used in the mining profession where a mineral pocket is exhausted by an ingenious series of attempts that locate the goods by a bit-by-bit panning process. In telephone sourcing, pocket hunting is exhausting a vein of information, extracting whatever there is in the line, until you reach that Eureka! moment when you hit the jackpot and reap the entirety. 'It's the constant and determined effort that breaks down all resistance and sweeps away all obstacles.' ~ Claude M. Bristol Get the NEW and FREE Sourcing GLOSSARY by e-mailing me: maureen at techtrak.com There are diamond mines. They are the untapped reserves of current employees sitting inside every office of evey company in the world. At the risk of being called a corporate raider, ignoring this mostly untapped reservoir of talent is at the peril of survival for every company in the world.

From ‘The Magic In The Method’ Sourcing Glossary:
Pocket Hunting: Terminology used in the mining profession where a mineral pocket is exhausted by an ingenious series of attempts that locate the goods by a bit-by-bit panning process. In telephone sourcing, pocket hunting is exhausting a vein of information, extracting whatever there is in the line, until you reach that Eureka! moment when you hit the jackpot and reap the entirety.

‘It’s the constant and determined effort that breaks down all resistance and sweeps away all obstacles.’ ~ Claude M. Bristol

Get the NEW and FREE Sourcing GLOSSARY by e-mailing me: maureen at techtrak.com

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