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		<title>By: Keith Rouda</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2004/09/30/overview-of-the-technology-based-assessment-marketplace/comment-page-1/#comment-548</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Rouda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2004 03:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gartner and the Corporate Leadership Council (to name just two) use these sort of grids and, as the author does in his paid consulting work, populates them with the actual company names.  These are also consulting companies and they are also paid.  Does anybody know whether either or these organizations, or any others, have done an analysis of this market similar to the author&#039;s?&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;You can read the original article &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://www.erexchange.com/articles/db/B30D4D9EBC2749A18DCBA6898EC9DA3D.asp&quot;&gt;here&lt;/A&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Post your own Article Review&lt;BR&gt;http://www.erexchange.com/p/g.asp?d=M&amp;cid={D545E44C-DF43-4850-9011-744C536D7E3B} &lt;BR&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gartner and the Corporate Leadership Council (to name just two) use these sort of grids and, as the author does in his paid consulting work, populates them with the actual company names.  These are also consulting companies and they are also paid.  Does anybody know whether either or these organizations, or any others, have done an analysis of this market similar to the author&#8217;s?</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Handler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Handler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2004 06:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great point!
ATP membership is definitely one place to go to help gain some information on a company.  Unfortunately, even some good companies dont belong to this association.

Thanks for spreading the word about this worthwhile organization

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great point!<br />
ATP membership is definitely one place to go to help gain some information on a company.  Unfortunately, even some good companies dont belong to this association.</p>
<p>Thanks for spreading the word about this worthwhile organization</p>
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		<title>By: Raymond Hinchcliffe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raymond Hinchcliffe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2004 05:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim,

I would like to point out that the assessment industry polices itself through the Association of Test Publishers, an association founded in 1922 to encourage a high level of professionalism and business ethics in test development. A list of association members can be found at  http://www.testpublishers.org/atpmn.htm.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim,</p>
<p>I would like to point out that the assessment industry polices itself through the Association of Test Publishers, an association founded in 1922 to encourage a high level of professionalism and business ethics in test development. A list of association members can be found at  <a href="http://www.testpublishers.org/atpmn.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.testpublishers.org/atpmn.htm</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Diana McDevitt</title>
		<link>http://www.ere.net/2004/09/30/overview-of-the-technology-based-assessment-marketplace/comment-page-1/#comment-540</link>
		<dc:creator>Diana McDevitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2004 05:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Until the various and frequent ERE commenters on ATS and Assessment Tools are willing to take a stand and rate systems by product name and vendor, these theoretical articles are just talk, and not meaningful. &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;You can read the original article &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://www.erexchange.com/articles/db/B30D4D9EBC2749A18DCBA6898EC9DA3D.asp&quot;&gt;here&lt;/A&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Post your own Article Review&lt;BR&gt;http://www.erexchange.com/p/g.asp?d=M&amp;cid={EFCE5CED-DF4F-4F04-91BF-0A413AE02290} &lt;BR&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Until the various and frequent ERE commenters on ATS and Assessment Tools are willing to take a stand and rate systems by product name and vendor, these theoretical articles are just talk, and not meaningful. </p>
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		<title>By: Jim Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2004 03:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a 3rd party recruiter for 18 years and watched all kinds of companies make bone-head hiring decisions based on the old &#039;I&#039;ll know &#039;em when I see &#039;em&#039; methodology. That got me interested in the Assessment Tool Industry to the point where I left recruiting, did my due diligence, and became an independent distributor for a world-class Assessment Tool Company 3 months ago. Since then, I have run into more assessment peddlers than you can shake a stick at.
Just like the recruiting industry, there&#039;s a lot of snake oil out there! As a newcomer to the industry, I can see a need for establishing industry standards and guidelines th help companies make intelligent decisions when selecting a vendor. The industry needs to police itself as well. There&#039;s a tremendous learning curve that needs to be addressed as well. The assessment industry needs to do a professional job of educating the marketplace. Chuck Handler is on the right track by raising the issue. To answer the writer&#039;s question about naming names, I&#039;m sure he would like to do it if you would be willing to help him foot the bill for the lawsuits! &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;You can read the original article &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://www.erexchange.com/articles/db/B30D4D9EBC2749A18DCBA6898EC9DA3D.asp&quot;&gt;here&lt;/A&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Post your own Article Review&lt;BR&gt;http://www.erexchange.com/p/g.asp?d=M&amp;cid={27EFC852-41B1-4A57-972B-096FFB0D8F4E} &lt;BR&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a 3rd party recruiter for 18 years and watched all kinds of companies make bone-head hiring decisions based on the old &#8216;I&#8217;ll know &#8216;em when I see &#8216;em&#8217; methodology. That got me interested in the Assessment Tool Industry to the point where I left recruiting, did my due diligence, and became an independent distributor for a world-class Assessment Tool Company 3 months ago. Since then, I have run into more assessment peddlers than you can shake a stick at.<br />
Just like the recruiting industry, there&#8217;s a lot of snake oil out there! As a newcomer to the industry, I can see a need for establishing industry standards and guidelines th help companies make intelligent decisions when selecting a vendor. The industry needs to police itself as well. There&#8217;s a tremendous learning curve that needs to be addressed as well. The assessment industry needs to do a professional job of educating the marketplace. Chuck Handler is on the right track by raising the issue. To answer the writer&#8217;s question about naming names, I&#8217;m sure he would like to do it if you would be willing to help him foot the bill for the lawsuits! </p>
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		<title>By: Charles Handler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Handler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2004 01:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your note.

Please understand that myself and other industry 
analysts like me are very happy to provide more detail about what companies fit where.  
However, it is important to note that this information is how we make our living.  

Publishing company names with our lists would be like asking for a recruiter to publish a list of A candidates rather then talking about what makes someone an A candidate.  The minute you send your list of A candidates to the world, you can do grave damage to your business.

I often do put names of companies into the grid I made but it is part of a paid consulting engagement where my client is recognizing that this knowledge is of value to them.

Anway, thanks for reading my article and I hope it had some value to you.

Regards,

Charles
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your note.</p>
<p>Please understand that myself and other industry<br />
analysts like me are very happy to provide more detail about what companies fit where.<br />
However, it is important to note that this information is how we make our living.  </p>
<p>Publishing company names with our lists would be like asking for a recruiter to publish a list of A candidates rather then talking about what makes someone an A candidate.  The minute you send your list of A candidates to the world, you can do grave damage to your business.</p>
<p>I often do put names of companies into the grid I made but it is part of a paid consulting engagement where my client is recognizing that this knowledge is of value to them.</p>
<p>Anway, thanks for reading my article and I hope it had some value to you.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Charles</p>
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